rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2013-05-02 06:10 pm

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Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
PEOPLE ALL O'ER THE WORLD, JOIN HANDS. START A DROP TRAIN. DROP TRAIN.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-04 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep telling myself this happens every year around this time, but it's still hard seeing so many old players/characters leave.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Feels as if the game itself is going to change. At least it not all the old players/characters, I think it would honestly be bad ICly if all the old characters vanished.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
You have to admit that a lot of the drops over the past 6 months have been older characters and muns.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of them would like to come back and have even talked about it, they're just extremely busy with RL right now. Which makes sense when you consider that the playerbase is getting older and most people are graduating from college and starting work or doing grad school.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
That or they just wanted a change of scenery/environment with their RP. There's a few old muns that dropped that are still RPing, but at other games.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Or with other characters. Let's be honest, three+ years with the same character in the same environment can burn anyone. As much as the mods are working to move the plot and as many revelations as there are, Luceti itself isn't exactly a constantly changing/evolving game, which makes the burn worse specially when coupled with CR/castmates drops and such. So it's natural that people would eventually take the "drop this, pick up that" route.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
As an older player who is considering it, it's because the game isn't what it was back when we joined. And that's not just because of change, it's more that the game was actually fun years ago. Now I'm just seeing boring events and boring posts and everything is getting so repetitive when the game used to be so fun and the posts so creative.

I'm on hiatus right now, but honestly I've been keeping up with reading the posts and I can't honestly say I've seen anything I'm interested in and going "damn, wish I could tag that". To me it just is starting to feel like a really long running TV show that is running out of ideas, but the creators still want to milk it for all its worth rather than just putting on a grand finale and letting it go out with a bang.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
As another older player who's been in (and out) of the game for a while, I actually quite like the events now compared to what they used to be. A lot of the older ones were fun but also more like crack-events. I like that there's the element of plot that we have now (even if that element was added quite some time ago), to give more reason to why the experiments are run. I like the concept of missions (and how they're an alternative to mallynaps) and the drafts are also pretty great to play in.

Or maybe it might just be beacause I'm not ready for the game to end yet, I like the setting and the playerbase too much to let them go!

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
It feels to me like there's a lot more creativity being put into the events these days than there used to be. I remember back when the events were mostly your generic genderswaps, people getting turned into animals, etc. etc. Some of the stuff we've had lately has been great, like that scavenger hunt one and the soap opera one we just had. There's a lot of room for the players to get creative with them and people have done some neat things!

The drafts and missions are awesome too, they give my hero-type character something to do so he doesn't end up getting depressed because he feels useless. If he ever starts feeling that way I can just send him off on a mission for a few days and have him come back all fired up again. The game feels a lot more balanced for different character types now than it used to be.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
I used to think that way too. Until most of my CR dropped and I realized that I hadn't been able to keep establishing CR with new characters leaving mine hanging on the line with almost no one they have CR with. It's probably my fault but I find establishing CR with most of the new players quite hard, I can have threads with them and all but it's basically always me chasing them for said threads, if I make a post even if my character is specifically calling for them they don't answer. I've had even appointment tags to them being ignored even if we have planned them OOCly.

So right now basically I'm still in the game just for the little CR I have, trying to work to get new CR and get into the plot so I can have fun like in the old days but the war part of the plot bores me to no end and the parts of the plot that aren't about the war move too slow and the information is held very tightly by those who have it.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
If you put it that way, then the problem isn't with the game it's with you! Which I don't mean to phrase in a bad/offensive way at all since I can certainly understand the feeling. New blood is great but it's hard to establish fresh CR if you've gotten used to a dropped RP partner's style/schedule/pace, especially if you're busy and can't quite adjust to potential CR's style.

Honest question, anon: if the war part of the plot bores you to no end, what parts of the plot interests you?

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Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
If you're not enjoying the game anymore, why are you still here? Pretty sure most of the active players don't want to see an endgame anytime soon, so if you're waiting around expecting that, you'll be mighty disappointed.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe there are still a few things they enjoy? Or still have meaningful CR they don't want to leave hanging.

What's with people jumping the gun and going "why don't you just drop?" whenever someone expresses they aren't enjoying things the same way they used to do? Anyway the endgame isn't decided by what the players want but by the mods, the whole playerbase may want the game to go on but if the mods decide that "that's it", then it's over no matter how much we whine just as it's going to go on while they say so no matter what.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I keep hoping it will get better or think maybe I'm just burned out and a hiatus is enough.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 08:14 am (UTC)(link)
what makes a creative post? honest question. i mean it's great when people do things like the hot girls/guys posts from several months ago but it just isn't feasible for characters to be having wacky or unusual shenanigans like that all the time.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 04:17 pm (UTC)(link)
As it stands now, the posts seem to run somewhat in a cycle. Let's start from when the intros start happening:

-Apps open, IC intros start. Vast majority of intros are the same, just new characters.
-As the IC intros start coming in older characters make the random welcoming posts.
-Event or draft comes. Log goes up for it, very little happens outside the log. Vast majority of log comments are the same thing and honestly not that easy to tag unless you have plans with the character. About half of your plans will have nothing come of them.
-Apologies for what happened during event or draft then back to status quo
-Random posts from squatters to make AC that will have threads dropped once they have enough comments
-Game slows to a crawl until the cycle begins anew

And throughout toss in some random philosophical questions and mallynap returns (when a lot of the time mallynap returns end up just being intros but with the character changed in some way, usually turned into a kid).

That's really the problem. It's not that we need silly posts, it's that we need something to shake up this pattern and change it. As it stands now anything that happens is promptly forgotten a week or so later and it goes back to the same old same old. Everything just goes around and around in a circle and we return back to the same spot with little change. Individual characters may grow a bit, but overall the game is in a rut and the only overall change is really what characters are around and what ones are no longer around.

To add to this, long term characters lose a lot of CR and find it hard to gain new CR. People have outright commented here that they don't tend to try and get CR with characters who have been in the game over a year, but a lot of those same characters are the ones who need it the most.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
People have outright commented here that they don't tend to try and get CR with characters who have been in the game over a year

Unless it's a castmate or an OOC friend. And generally the excuse is that since those characters have been around for so long, nothing their char can do will really interest them in the first place so there's no reason to bother. Another excuse is that they just don't want older residents shooting down their characters' hopes and whatever by telling them all the shit they have gone through.

DA

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Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
To add to this, long term characters lose a lot of CR and find it hard to gain new CR.

have you tried? i'm asking this because i'm an older player who has never found a problem getting cr with new players and characters if i reached out to them and tagged their posts. i've currently got the beginnings of some great new cr with a couple of characters who apped in last cycle. i tagged their intros, my character struck up a conversation with theirs, and then when i posted for my character they tagged my post back.

if you show interest and pursue it, i've found that most new players are happy to play with older characters.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hey fellow older player! I just wanted to tell you you're not alone in that feeling. I have it too. Continuing to be invested in the game does feel an awful lot like a chore nowadays, though the feel I have doesn't stem from 'uncreative posts' or 'boring events'. The way I see it, the events are still creative and the posts are still on the same level they used to be.

To me, it does feel like the game changed, but it's because of the playerbase. Back when I joined and delved into my pinnacle of ultimate RP funtimes, it was alongside completely different players. Very few of them still remain today and you can tell most of them aren't as involved as they used to be either. I look at the event plotting threads and I see a lot of characters I don't know and have no CR with, but attempting to start that with all of them is something I don't have time for. Not anymore, anyway.

From my perspective, Luceti has grown too big for all of it to hold my interest. It's not a grievance to the point that I want to drop the game entirely- it's just that I always need to put thought into what I decide to spend my time and energy on, because it feels like there's too much going on to keep track of all of it.

Also, while the underlying 'plot' of Luceti does still continue, it feels like there's less to gain from trying to do something with it. I remember back in the day when the NPCs first appeared and all characters were bombing them with assorted questions. The challenge was to phrase the question just right to get new, interesting information. Nowadays, it feels to me the NPCs are just filler to introduce new events, missions and drafts.

DDA

(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
RIP Jacob.

Never forget.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-05 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who still wonders what that whole issue with "you're presence here harms your worlds" was. Maybe it was confirmed it was false and I missed that confirmation. Or maybe it has been forgotten as it seems to have happened with other things of the plot.

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Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-07 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, I think the older characters and muns are a lot of the problem.

I dropped this game because I tried to thread with all three of the main mods multiple times and was brushed off in favor of the same old cliques. If even the mods won't make the slightest effort to tag outside their cliques, why should I stick around and hope anybody else will?

(Anonymous) 2013-05-07 02:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I tried to tag three players in a game with at least one hundred and fifty, and our characters just didn't click! Better write off the whole game!

No seriously, that's a very small pool you're sampling from, even if you're just talking about older players. I've been here for four years, and I have more CR with the mod NPCs than their normal characters.

Re: LUCETI

(Anonymous) 2013-05-07 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
you do realize that mods of games are generally a bad example to use for this kind of thing, right? their main priority should be keeping the game running and if that means they need to keep their cr circle smaller in order to be able to play in the game and keep up with all of the nitty-gritty modding stuff, then that's how it goes. frankly i'd be happy to trade being able to have cr with mod characters for a game that runs smoothly.

i'm not denying that older players are part of the problem but come on, at least pick a better example than mods.