socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2019-08-04 10:25 am

my werewolf had a buttpuppy

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Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-15 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Something that really bothers me about all this clique talk is that it forces the assumption that everyone involved is an arrogant shit who doesn't want to tag outside their buttbuddies at all under any circumstances. In some cases that's certainly true, and I've absolutely seen it in some of the mods here. There are a couple of them I've stopped trying to get CR with also, as trying to break into the clique isn't worth the effort for the experience I get when they do play with me.

However, I've been on the other side of it, too. I'm one of the older players in the game, and for a while I was having health issues that were severely impacting my RP energy. I dropped all my other characters so I could focus on my main and I was active every month, with several new threads and more than enough to make AC in a timely fashion, and I rarely drop threads. Even so, I never tagged outside of my own clique, because keeping up with the CR I already had was exhausting. Now that I've pulled through my issues I'm having a great time tagging out again, but I'm sure there are people who believe I'm completely unapproachable now because I spent so long barely keeping my head above water.

So, despite having many new threads each month, never flaking if I could help it, and always meeting AC, did I not deserve a place in the game at all because I needed to restrict things to my long-term CR for a while in order to keep up? Was I being "lazy" because at my lowest, getting one or two tags a day out was like pulling teeth despite my best efforts?

Again, I'm not saying everyone getting mentioned here is totally innocent. We do have a lot of cliques and I agree that some of them need to be managing their priorities better. But 99% of the time looking around my own circle, when someone is slow and insular for months at a time, it's usually because life is kicking their ass in some way. Because Emp has such low AC it's an ideal place for slow players, and for players who are struggling but want to stick it out for things to improve rather than dropping. This law I'm seeing that you're suddenly a stuck-up snob if you don't bow down and cater to every single person who comes screaming onto your doorstep for CR is damaging, I think, and so is expecting people to tag out constantly when they're already trying to coordinate with a dozen people every month.

Sometimes it's not at all a matter of being "lazy". Sometimes it is. But it hurts a lot of people when that's the automatic assumption.

Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
you put it way better than I could, nonny.

With a game this big, someone is going to get left out from the CR they want with a player. And with a game this big, a player could easily get swamped with CR that they now want to focus on building.

building those cr could take place over months. What are they expected to do then? Take on more CR because it's the correct thing to do? Who's helping them when they burn out from trying to tackle too many threads? Some characters are just popular and get piled on in open posts. Is it wrong for players to manage the number of threads they can handle? And sometimes it's not entirely visible when they do take on one or two new CR with new players. Because people would just see them tagging their existing CR/clique as the majority.

This whole thing about cliques in general in dwrp is irritating. I get that it's frustrating if it's in a smaller game where their CR would matter but there's such a large pool of players in Empatheias. Yes, it sucks when the CR you want can't be had because the player is too busy, or prefer to stick with developing what they have. I've been on the receiving end of it. So I get disappointed for a while and move on. I've also been on the side where I qualify as cliquey just because I'm swamped, having trouble keeping up with rp cause of rl, or whatever other reason. And I do want to tag out or do open logs. The heart want but there's no capacity to handle it.

Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
i don't think anyone here is complaining about the people with one character who are doing their best to keep up due to rl, anon. i know i at least am complaining about the people who have multiple characters or are in multiple games and then barely exist in emp or only tag their buttbuddies. i can think of at least two cliquey people whose main problem is that they've simply spread themselves too thin and need to drop a couple of characters/games because they can't keep up with everything they have.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
basically this.

Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
lol at thinking no one is specifically targeting players who are doing their best.

people get shit on in anoncomms because they don't play exactly how others want them to. Maybe there's legit criticism mixed in here but considering there have been anons out for blood lately (I know this is not wankgate but a lot of us do travel) I think there's a 50% chance people are just out to start shit and make people feel bad for how they rp.

Ayrt

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Except that's exactly what's happening. Likewise I can think of at least two people I've seen smeared lately who have been taking all the right steps to lighten the load and prioritize getting through RL in the long term. The fact that they're trying to gather more mods and helpers at all is indicative of the fact that they know things are going to shit and want to fix it gracefully, and yet people are coming in here to complain about how they handle their personal CR.

Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
are you seriously using health problems as an excuse to only boomerang tag your friends? no one is demanding they reach out to every single person in the game. it's the fact that they don't even try to reach out to even a SINGLE new person outside their circle that's damning.

and what's stopping them from trying during slow times? when my established cr is on hiatus or just not around i use the chance to thread with new people. sometimes it goes somewhere and sometimes it doesn't but at least i try. it really isn't that hard to branch out a tiny bit. they just don't.

on the hiatus page the luna player says she is going on hiatus because all her castmates and cr did and i think that about sums up the empatheias experience.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
even if they did reach out to a SINGLE new person, you would never notice unless it's with you and you would be complaining here all the same.

luna's hiatus does not sum up the empatheias experience, it just reveals that you care about pointless things.

da

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
or you could

you know

be in the game and just be paying attention to posts

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
or they could have confirmation bias, imagine that! i can't speak with total assurance that a group of people don't reach out to a SINGLE person. either they're exaggerating or they're completely right but also strangely obsessive for keeping track of who's reaching out to who.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Not everyone has the time or energy to get weirdly obsessive about who is tagging and reaching out to who every month.

da

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
for what it's worth, people posting to events with closed top levels stick out like a sore thumb and it's not hard to notice the 8th month in a row they do it, especially if they're a character you were interested in tagging, so it's not really anything that requires much time or energy,

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
it isn't really obsessive to look at the monthly events and notice the same characters doing nothing but closed top levels. especially if you've been in the game for any decent length of time.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
it doesn't mean you will notice them reaching out to others via private messages, plurk or simply tagging out. if you are paying attention to these things then you are weirdly obsessive about certain players

(Anonymous) 2019-08-17 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
if they’re making closed top levels to the same characters i promise they aren’t doing this. you could go check their character tags in the game for yourself if you wanna prove me wrong.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
closed top level doesn't mean they don't tag out to others though? it just means they want to control how many threads they have so they can have time to run this game for you

my advice is to spend less time creeping on others and focus on your own rp, but if you really want to play the "prove me wrong" game, then the onus of proof lies on the one who's throwing mud in the first place. something tells me you'll probably do that instead of writing your own tags today

da

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
idk why you keep wanting to stan for these cliquey players but i can assure you that it's very obvious these people are only interested in playing with their friends. i generally poke into most open posts and logs to see if they are something my characters would be interested in and also just to read threads when work is slow and i'm bored, and there are plenty of people i never see tagging out outside of their own little clique.

da

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, okay, different anon, they are a clique and we believe your word. Now you can move on with your life.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you whiteknighting for them so hard? honest question. i've never seen an anon fight harder to defend clique behavior.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 01:07 pm (UTC)(link)
dude. the more defensive you get over their clique the more ridiculous you make them look.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
did you try pming the player of that character and asking if they'd like to do a thread?

+1

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
This.

All of the people I've talked to are happy to thread with others if you just ask them, even if they have nothing open to tag into.

Re: +1

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
This. And don't go in expecting a thread like it's your given right. Sometimes they're genuinely busy or it takes months before it can happen.

these babies acting like threading with a cr circle they've built over time is a horrible horrible thing and there's no way they're just swamped and don't have the capacity to take on more even if they wanted to.

we rp for fun, not to be fun dispensers. ask and you might get but it's not your right to get it even so.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
not even in the game but you guys really don't see how it's a problem if you can't even get cr with a significant number of people in the game without putting yourself on a waiting list? like damn, if i found that out about a game i was considering joining, i'd go elsewhere because that's a huge turnoff.

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Re: EMPATHEIAS

(Anonymous) 2019-08-16 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
oh fuck off. like the anon above said. you wouldn't have fucking noticed.

stop reaching for excuses to bitch. y'all clearly have a grudge against a group and are dragging them for stupid ass reasons.