socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2025-04-02 07:21 pm

i choose to marry the triceratops

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Re: RP HELP COMM

(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
backtagging

handwaving

maybe what headcanon means vs AUs in the dwrp context? i've seen rp scenes like tumblr conflate the two before, while they're terms with pretty distinct definitions here

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 we need to normalize calling trans "headcanons" trans AUs

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
did you have to make this about trans wank or are you this upset about trans headcanons

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
exactly. in my opinion, headcanons are like "the character prefers vanilla ice cream over chocolate" or "the character visits this specific place every year." little stuff that fleshes out the character but doesn't fundamentally change them.

but trans "headcanons" change the characters and maybe the settings. it should be classified along the same lines as 63

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree completely and I have been saying this for a while. I think it would relieve some of the debate aspect of all this if we started referring to them properly as AUs.

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:14 pm (UTC)(link)
except that there are settings in stories wherr being trans doesn't radically change a person's backstory so you will always have people who disagrre with you about whether or not it constitutes an AU

people are always going to have differing opinions on this and the debate always comes around to that, which is why giving any legitimacy to this bait is never helpful

there are different stories, different opinions, and different life experiences out there and you're never going to reach a blanket consensus where making it always an AU is going to be fair to every player

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
not changing it radically doesn't mean not changing it at all. that's what constitutes an au.

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
you're on the wrong comm for this bait

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
honestly curious about this, but would you also say this about "I like to think my character has this childhood scar" or "this allergy"

Does this now become an AU

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
AU is something that differentiates from canon information. A scar or allergy that hasn't been mentioned doesn't deviate from what we know of a character (unless it does). If we all know Dean loves pie and eats all the pie ever and suddenly he's allergic to apples or pie crust, that would be a deviation from canon info and would make him Allergic to Pie AU Dean. The reason transgender and gender swaps are AUs are exactly that - they differentiate and deviate from canon information we've been given. Dean being Deanna is a great 63 AU that would be fun to play (badass horny hunter lady can be fun). But it'd be an AU. Same with Sam having had a sister that's now his brother. What one could play if one wanted that isn't -technically- an AU would be transitioning to female at 'present' canonpoint. That would be the only way that one could effectively play trans Dean without it being ooc or an AU. (arguments vary on if Dean feeling more female than male would be ooc or not, who knows what God and angels do).

AU changes the known information, hence 'alternate'. Headcanon follows along with what we know and supplies information that hasn't come up. Like maybe making Dean allergic to asparagus. Or having a scar under his big toe from stepping on barbed wire as a child.

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
being trans isn't the same as having a childhood scar or an allergy, wtf...

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
i feel that like another anon said, an AU changes the character/setting while headcanon just fleshes out a character

uncle joey from full house having a scar or an allergy would just be headcanon, uncle joey receiving a scar in a space laser battle or having an allergy to dragons would be an au

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
this even ties into canon aus vs general aus. there are canons, particularly like marvel and dc that have alternate universes, which is where the term comes from for rp. so the universe where supergirl is evil or where nightcrawler has a family with scarlet witch is divergent from the original canon source, or earth 616, as an example. it's still canon, but it's an au within the canon. like the three different peter parkers are now canon aus within mcu marvel.

but these are different than aus of a canon character, like wanting a character to be trans, or changing who they are as a person that we're familiar with in canon. an example of that outside of a trans or rule 63 idea would be taking harry potter and making neville be the boy who lived. or matt murdock deciding that after his dad died he didn't believe in god anymore, ran away from the nuns and the orphanage, and grew up as a blind boxer/street rat. fun au ideas, and that's why i love the au memes so much, but not canon by a long shot.

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
why is everyone so convinced there are zero stories out there where being a trans person isbt radical and isnt actually that abnormal an experience

we live in a world where a ton of canons have magic that turns people into other beings and uou cant imagine a scenario in which there are stories where nothing changes if a character was trans

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
just write a canon trans character or make an oc

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
i am not playing one

i just use my brain to read stories and there are some settings where it doesn't matter

there's a canon I'm into where we know a character isn't canonically trans because his friends are gushing over childhood pictures where he seems to be dressed as a girl, but he reveals it is actually his grandmother who looks similar to him. We are given many hints to suggest that the characters in this canon could live freely as trans people.

i would not consider a trans character in this setting a whole au, but might consider jason todd as a trans man an AU, and would def consider jason todd as transfemme an au. and so by that logic saying "every single trans thing has to be an au" just doesnt work

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
why are you making it seem like trans aus are a dirty word. like making it au instead of headcanon is filthy or an insult. that sounds like a you issue. it's not a bad thing. it's just not headcanon. it is, by definition of making a cis character trans, an au. which you can do. no one's stopping you. but there are definitions for that and terms for it. and there are places that allow it and places that don't. why are you arguing about the wrong thing?

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not; you might be conflating my comments with someone else's

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(Anonymous) 2025-04-03 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
possibly because most games won't allow aus of any kind but won't/can't say much about headcanon