socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2023-07-04 04:45 pm

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Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Why are so many people here so weirdly cruel on anon, and does that actually represent the true rp community?

Just looking at flat view:

Apparent secret TERFs who are being transphobic and talking about a former dramatic player using a rude portmanteau of their name and deadname when they've done either absolutely nothing wrong (I have no history here so I don't know) or haven't done anything wrong in long enough it doesn't really matter.

Assuming a comment is from a particular person and then telling them to go do their tags "for once" and to stop commenting on their "terrible choices" ... that's not how you get a response in a social hobby. Is it because it's an anon meme and it's posturing and being over the top, or do people actually speak to their RP partners this way? Or worse, feel that way but not say anything in a kinder fashion?

I would not want to RP with anyone who talked to me like that or anyone who actually thought poorly of me but pretended not to, or who is misgendering just to cause hurt feelings or question someone's identity just because they're "creepy" (cis or trans doesn't have anything to do with how someone may or may not be creepy).

And do people really care that much about icons. Like really? I totally understand the not conflating Korean and Chinese, but further than that?

I'm very much hoping this is "anon comms are cesspools" and not representative. If this is how people in DWRP communicate I think I'll backtrack on trying to join a game; I'd like to make friends I enjoy writing with, not be a transactional source of tags. I'd love to be told this kind of stuff is an anomaly though! But as a trans person who tags slowly it seems more like a minefield than a good time.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
anon, i would pay more attention to how you've felt about namespace interactions than the ones you've observed on here. as has been mentioned, very few people in the community actually go on rpanons or wankgate. if you want to get a sense of what the dwrp community is like, you would do better just to scroll through plurk for a while. i have never understood why people are so cranky on anon, either, but this is not a problem that is exclusive to dwrp. i've seen it on ffa, on tumblr, on reddit, and so on. if rpa makes you feel bad, i would just stop checking it.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you, anon! I've never looked at it before and I got pointed here for resources, then got sucked into the flat view and went O.O

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
nonny is this your very first foray into any sort of internet community? the discussion happening here is pretty tame by p much any standard of an anon community, so if this is a cesspool in your pov... just. don't go here?

this isn't how 'how people on dwrp talk to each other' or 'how you can expect your writing partners/game mates to talk to you.' many dwrpers dont go on anoncomms or don't comment even if they go or see people arguing and close the tab and don't gaf. we the people who are posting on rpanons at this moment are a collection of total randos with a shared hobby who don't know each other, probably don't play with one another, or share games with each other. this is like seeing anonymous knitters bash each other for their poor choice in yarn choices in an online forum and deciding you don't want to join a knitting circle because you're afraid that's representative of the "true spirit of knitters."

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
as a regular lurker and more recent commenter idk. it is pretty jarring to see random transphobia and people being rude about questions or concerns or worries in any hobbyist community. so many of you guys respond in this strange and condescending way every time someone asks this question. it isn't a judgment call on you specifically so maybe chill? there's no standard unanon hub for newbies to get into the dwrp world anymore with the death of fandom comms, and so for a lot of them, rpanons is their first real exposure to our ooc community. i get that we get questions and remarks along these lines fairly often and it becomes a little exhausting. but i feel like if it's mentioned this much it might be time to consider that it's offputting for new people to see? it doesn't hurt to be patient.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
i mean i'll admit maybe i'm just an old codger who's been here and around on the internet for too long but my impression has always been that anon communities (for all hobbies and subject matters) are and always have been full of bored people looking to chat and complain and easily devolve into trolls hurling slurs left and right without sufficient moderation. rpanons is a positive delight (yes even with the recent spate of complaints and crossover talk about wg) in comparison to a lot of other places, so are we getting new people who come from. idk much more well mannered communities or young people who aren't familiar with anoncomm cultures at all or what?

i like to roll out the welcome mat for newbies who ask about how dwrp works and how to break in but being shocked by seeing people being casual assholes brings out the cane shaking part of me ig

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt and i'm an old guy too and honestly it's entirely possible we might be getting an influx of people from both non-anon communities which are by default less acerbic and given that i've seen more than one person express surprise at the idea of anonymous communities in general, it may be that your guess it's actually 100% correct. i'd rather give some of the newer people the benefit of the doubt — i think us older millennials don't always have the best perspective on how much things have changed in such a short period of time with the internet and the culture around it because we've been around for most of the changes and dwrpers in general tend not to branch out a ton to other rp comms? this is just me spitballing btw I might be wrong.

and yeah i also get a little "ok :/" at some of the catastrophizing of new (and sometimes older) people on anoncomms whenever they see some spots of negativity on here, but i try to imagine myself in their shoes as maybe someone who just straight up doesn't frequent or know about anonymous communities to know that it's a commonplace thing to see in places where people don't have to put a face to their comments.

sidenote: i really do think dwrp would benefit from a centralized unanonymous (non-anonymous?) community too. something about us having like, ugly flop wankgate and then here, which is nicer by far but you still randomly see someone wild out about the dumbest shit just does not give a person a good impression ykwim. i can see where they're coming from. i'm not proposing a hugbox or whatever but it'd be nice to see more mentoring and camaraderie for sure. we used to have spots like that in ljrp and it sucks it's not a thing anymore.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with your sidenote, but mostly because thinking about this group of 20-40 miserable people as the entire DWRP community makes me sad. I want to think there are more folks out there that I just haven't met yet.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
>:C anon, your extremely reasonable tone and commentary have made me put away my cane.

no, but you're right. The people who've been here for a long while are mostly older-mid millennials (that's me too) used to a certain way things "are" but that doesn't mean it's how things should be or that the internet landscape hasn't changed around us and we can't change for the better too.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-11 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
do you think nasty twitter dogpiling from Fistname92847983 twitter accounts about, say, star wars movies, are an accurate representation of all star wars fans? c'mon. most people don't even go here. those that do accept that they're probably going to get snippy replies from people because once they can be anon they're free to be as blunt as they want without any consequences. it's not unique to rp. you know that.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Apparent secret TERFs who are being transphobic and talking about a former dramatic player using a rude portmanteau of their name and deadname when they've done either absolutely nothing wrong (I have no history here so I don't know) or haven't done anything wrong in long enough it doesn't really matter.

that's just it, though. anons are leaving out the fact that this person was an active creep/harasser and the portmanteau originated so that people would be aware that this was the same person because they had a history of stalking people and trying to circumvent people's dnis.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
+1 it still matters because that person would absolutely not be welcomed back here.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
exactly. it had nothing to do with them being trans and everything to do with them being a predator who didn't respect when people said "don't tag me again."

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
why can't you guys simply say if this person comes back: "this player's name is kay. she has a previous history of frequently overstepping boundaries and circumventing permissions in order to push kink/ships on others. she has made games uncomfortable to be in and was banned from xyz, etc."

that's all you have to say. you don't have to even bring up the deadname or bring up how creepy and off putting you find the circumstances of their transitioning, because it's not relevant to the crux of the issue. which is this person being the sort of individual that oversteps boundaries and tries to get by permissions.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
of course you have to bring up their previous name, otherwise people who might remember them by their previous handle but not the current one won't know who tf you're talking about. are you being purposefully obtuse?

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
eh, look at the comment below because they said what i was going to say to you anyway. i think you're the one being purposefully obtuse pal. there are ways to refer to their previous identity without being a transphobe and giving them a transphobic nickname. peace and blessings on planet earth! have a nice day.

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
and when people rightfully ask for proof that you're not pulling all this out of your ass it should be obvious to include a part where "X previously went by Z while they were harassing and stalking people, so the screenshots and mod ban announcement refer to them by their previous name."

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
because part of the overstepping boundaries and circumventing permissions involved her using the new name to try to pretend she was someone else and not the same person that people had already asked not to tag them again?

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
but it doesn't matter because the end result is the same anyway? and they're already transitioned at this point? what do you think they're going to do, a switcharoo where they're suddenly i.ding as neurodivergent and a minor so you have to tag with them? bffr

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
like, i agree with all that

but "it's been so long that this person no longer matters to the community" is objectively false

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
i don't think anyone said that though. if i'm wrong feel free to correct me, but from what i've seen, everyone myself included has been saying that it's been years since this person was relevant or in this space, and yet they're brought up a lot as some sort of example, which in itself appears to be an excuse to be transphobic. not that their behavior should be excused at all or wasn't relevant.

sa

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
ignore that other relevant at the end i just had an edible lol

Re: sa

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
heard

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Apparent secret TERFs who are being transphobic and talking about a former dramatic player using a rude portmanteau of their name and deadname when they've done either absolutely nothing wrong (I have no history here so I don't know) or haven't done anything wrong in long enough it doesn't really matter.

this is what anons are responding to

(Anonymous) 2023-07-12 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
oh yeah i see now. looks like a game of telephone/lines crossed to me and a misunderstanding, not deliberate obfuscation

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