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Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

Regardless of the actual content of the show, a quick look at the only three games I know of with RWBY casts shows me that two of them (Erku and Deerington) have mostly female characters, while the other (Avalon) has entirely female characters, with an overall female to male ratio of 3:1.

Unless there's multiple other games with mostly male casts or a flood of the dudes on memes this doesn't seem like the sort of canon where someone playing a girl is going to get snubbed.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

you're right but unfortunately, RWBY is one of those canons where if you say anything positive about it at all, some anon will rush in to piss on your comment

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

it has some positive aspects, but it's also deeply flawed and anyone seeking to pick up a character from it should know that in advance.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

Anon what canon do we play from in dwrp isn't deeply flawed?

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, OP said they like Warcraft, FF14, Gundam, and the MCU. I'm pretty sure they can handle something like RWBY without turning away in disgust.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

indeed all of those things are also poorly written lol

da

[(Anonymous)]

Hot take: it's okay to like something for being entertaining and having elements (fights, characters, etc.) you like

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

i personally adore rwby and find it enjoyable plotwise, but there's a few anons who hate it and feel the need to tell anyone who mentions it why they think it sucks. i'd really just advise anyone who wants to get into it to try it and see if they like or dislike it rather than assuming they'll have the exact same taste as a random anon.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

i mean it... does kind of suck and i say that as someone who is also a fan? or was. it really shat the bed in a lot of ways lately and people are right to be pissed about it and to point you may or may not be wasting your time with the turd of a plot and the terrible character arcs.

you're allowed to like flawed canons, but you shouldn't make excuses for them either. a buyer beware is pretty fair in this case.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

we get it, you stan an unrepentant villain and/or they killed your fave waifu. let people enjoy things.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

i mean, you can think that. i don't really see it as flawed, though. while i get you/some people really hate the plot, i really enjoy it. i'm not making an excuse for it - i just honestly think it's a great canon and i've enjoyed each successive season more.

it's cool you don't like it. i don't like some series that a lot of people in dwrp really like and really think are super cool. i find the plots trite or the characters dull. but that doesn't mean everyone feels the same way i do, because a plot i find boring or flawed someone else might find very engaging.

i just think it's mildly dumb that some anons are constantly arguing that rwby is absolutely totally flawed like it's not mostly flawed to them and acting like people genuinely enjoying it is "making excuses".

people like different things. YOU not liking a canon doesn't mean it did things badly for other people.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

i mean, you're allowed to like whatever you want. plenty of people still liked GoT by the end. it just doesn't make it any less bad.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

You should't expect people to flagellate themselves every time they talk about something either. That's weird.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

da, but the entire plot has always been a poorly thought-out mess and some of it is downright offensive. it IS really entertaining, though, and as someone who has followed it for a while, i've really come to care for many of the chatacters, especially the main four. really feel like this is the kind of canon you should take what you like from and then fix the rest in your fanworks, without making excuses for the source material.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 it is objectively poorly written

we're not saying you can't like something that's poorly written, but, it is poorly written and that deserves a heads up, especially for someone looking to potentially invest their time and rp energy into it

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 and idk why this is so hard to accept

no one said you can't like rwby or whatever other canon. but the fact of the matter is much of the fandom was alienated by INCREDIBLY poor writing decisions and they even completely tanked certain characters for no logical reason at all (cough ironwood cough)

all this hyperdefensiveness is a huge turn-off to a potential player. not really a way convince someone to play from your canon tbh.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

ironwood has been a fascist since season 2

da

[(Anonymous)]

I was surprised how many people forgot or didn't pick up on that. It ain't subtle.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

a lot of the best plot beats in rwby are very slowburn, which means that people with bad memories, and of course people who gave up in earlier seasons, are blindsided by "shocking" and illogical writing decisions that actually aren't that shocking or illogical.

the nature of the project during its early years guaranteed that there would be a lot of writing stumbles, and yeah there sure are a lot of those, but ironwood's arc ain't one of them.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

i truly and honestly don't know what else to tell you. many, many people i know who once loved the show are shaking their heads at it now. it's not all coming from trolls or assholes who hated it all along. it has taken a definitive downturn and that's not an unpopular opinion.

the point is moot anyway because lol if you think op is touching this now. chasing someone off because you refuse to concede the show MIGHT have a consistency issue = bad look. nobody even said it was the very worst ever but damn if y'all aren't making it seem that way.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

genuine question, is there a vid or write-up or something that motivates this take? because i've only seen them for the opposite, that ironwood was never a fascist until they had to make him one to give him tension with the main cast

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know of any essay that someone might have written up, but off the top of my head here are the warning signs from earlier seasons.

In season 2, he shows up to a festival/tournament that celebrates an armistice agreement (for a war his country started) with a full military fleet without warning anyone ahead of time that he's going to.

In season 3, he meddles with the politics of a foreign country to go over the head of another character (who's supposed to be a close friend and ally of his) to try to implement policies Ironwood thinks is right.

In season 4, he closes his country's borders and stops all exports of an important resource. He does this without getting approval from the other people in his country's ruling council.

He's not around in seasons 5 or 7.

In season 7 it becomes clear that his decision to close the borders and ban exports is causing a lot of grief and tension for the working class in his country. He also reroutes valuable resources that could help the city to an important secret project without explaining why, orders a political rival arrested, and bans public gatherings. At the end of the season he declares martial law and tries to have the main characters arrested for defying him. Season 8 is all about him escalating his behavior further and further to try to control the situation.

A lot of Ironwood stans argue that because he had good intentions in doing all of this him being such a monster in the last season is unreasonable, but that's always been the entire point of his character. He's someone that's willing to go to unreasonable extremes to do what's 'right', but he won't listen to any input about what counts as the right thing to do or what the best way to achieve it is.

To reiterate, his very first scene in the series is him showing up with his military fleet, his allies telling him why it's a bad idea, and Ironwood blowing them off because he thinks he's right. Anyone that thinks the tracks for this weren't laid from the start wasn't paying attention.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

Now watch as anon upthread runs in to call you overdefensive for having a basic understanding of your canon.

Re: F/F friendly characters/canons?

[(Anonymous)]

+1 all of this. "ironwood is morally grey" is a plot beat that was set up from his very first appearance. he always hoarded power for the greater good and was always presented as a character who overreacts to threats to both his safety and his authority as a fundamental aspect of his personality. throw in his obvious PTSD after Beacon, and... well.

to other anon, sorry i don't have any vids or essays to link. i don't engage with that stuff because i find most of them espouse deliberately controversial takes for views and they tend to put them out very quickly after a divisive season or episode airs, before those slowburn beats actually come to fruition over many seasons. in the long run they are actually not very good analyses of the writing, imo.

(which i agree IS flawed in many ways, just to reiterate.)

[(Anonymous)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnKj59v_DcE this isn't a video essay so much as just showing all the scenes laying out the ironwood plot since season 2.