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Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

I don't have the time to run this yet, but eventually down the line I'd like to give it a whirl (or give the idea up to someone else). Right now, the major sex games either seem to rely heavily on sex-or-die, some kind of mechanic that keeps a certain subset of people oppressed, or are based on consent and SOL but with rules in place to make it so conflict isn't really possible. I want to try to create sex game that straddles a few lines to be something different.

The Setting

- a fantasy city/kingdom with magic and magitech
- there'd be some cultural draws from cultures equivalent to the middle east, India, Africa, etc, and also some cultures that seem totally alien
- the mythical creatures would be original or drawn from non-European cultures (like a whole species of kinnara) to make it seem like a truly alien world.
- the visual aesthetic would mix things from fantasy and sci fi canons like Final Fantasy, the Dark Crystal, ATLA, Steven Universe, and A Wrinkle Time.
- like the consent-based games, people get offered a tantalizing incentive to the city. They can revive people from the dead, prevent disasters, you name it.
- it's basically a do-anything magic wish, and its only limitation would be that it can't be used to somehow hurt someone else or do something bad to them non-consensually.

The Sex Gimmick

- why are the characters being propositioned for the city? consensual sex and nonsexual affection helps breathe life back into two powerful goddesses that once protected the whole world from incursions by otherworldly creatures that regularly attack it. They've found that non-natives, for some reason, produce greater amounts of this energy with their acts of intimacy
- the goddesses loved one another and loved their world and exerted all their love/life energy protecting their world from a really horrific threat from outside the universe, a formless nightmare-being called Keku.
- because their powers were derived from their love, sex, love, and non-sexual physical intimacy produce similar life energy that's slowly reviving them.
- when they're revived, it's thought that they will finally be strong enough to destroy Keku for good and close off their world to its dimension forever.
- kinky stuff totally counts! They were very chill goddesses with a zest for life whose response to most questions of "is this weird sex shit we're doing okay?" was "geddit!" as long as everything was consensual.

The Feelings Gimmick

- the goddesses only managed to banish Keku's main form and couldn't kill it before they fell into their crystal sleep, so in between the sexing, the city faces incursions by Keku's monsters, that sometimes breach into the game universe from the space between worlds
- if Keku destroys the city, he can try to destroy the crystallized giant goddesses underneath and will destroy the infrastructure they're using to revive them
- the monsters that come through are pretty terrifying and hard to even look at. (I'm figuring on a vibe like the art from Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark: http://i.imgur.com/aUvhGyR.jpg).
- they can't be fought physically! Each has some kind of negative magical mental status effect, like infecting a person with a fever that makes them rant and rave about their worst nightmares, or linking two characters together and inflicting their bad memories on each other, or otherwise causing emotional damage
- to fight them, everyone in the city is armed with magical crystal devices that harness the life energy of the city, and they reconfigure each time to provide counter-attacks.
- usually for each incident, these counterattacks are different each time, but typically require people to join their willpower and work together. The device tells them the solution, they do it to power their devices, and then they can wipe that particular type of creature from existence.
- depending on what type of monster it is, sometimes they have to link up with the devices and share memories with each other, or admit a deep secret, or confess their feelings for each other, or some other intimate (typically verbal or mental) act.
- the characters would be warned about the monster incursions before they arrive, too, just like they'd have the sex thing explained. That's why the city offers very tantalizing incentives for people to come.

The Vibe

- the game would be mostly SOL in a really beautiful fantasy city, with lots of fantasy creatures and cool culture, and lots of fun things to do there. (Since pleasure and love and affection revive the goddesses, it's considered something of a sex-positive magical Las Vegas).
- people can take up jobs to get more than their base pay for being there, including cool magical ones that don't exist on their worlds. (The light dancers of the city are renowned across the world!) They can create businesses, the whole works.
- but the monotony is broken up with the occasional monster incursion, where characters have to rely on each other and share things with each other to fight the monsters with willpower, honesty, openness of their feelings and so on.

tl;dr summary

- a fantasy (science fantasy?) consent-based game with lots of SOL and a little conflict, where characters fight the occasional monster attack with their emoooshuns.

Would anyone be interested in that?

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

You really need aphro too to make a sex game work for some characters. Completely cutting out non-con will put off a lot of people too, even if it's mostly based on consent/consent is encouraged.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

On the aphro end of things, I think instead of using aphros I'd have it be like Eudio, where characters have to engage in at least some activity or they're sent home, and therefore wouldn't get their magic wish. The city could magically monitor how much affection energy they're contributing to the goddesses. This can just be nonsexual affection, though, but that can sometimes build into relationships and sex for characters over time.

As for the rest, personally I don't have issues with noncon in general as a kink, but I'd like it to have a game vibe where characters feel safe on the sexual end of things because the only threat is the monsters. You can't really manage characters feeling safe in sexual situations when things in the setting are drugging them into sex or with rapists running around. With consent-based games or games that aren't consent-based, it tends to be one or the other, drawing in one demographic or the other. It's hard to do a sex game setup that would allow for aphro and also for character types that would leave the city the second they noticed people getting drugged into doing the do.

The game would be meant more for the latter. If some characters don't fit, there are fortunately other options of sex games out there with different setups. Right now, though, there don't seem to be many cuddle/consent-based games with sources of conflict.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

the problem with that is that with eudio, it can and often is all handwaved. if you want things like that to be a thing in a sex game, consensual or not, offering options for those that are a little less likely to participate can be helpful. it lets not necessarily affectionate characters have a reason to do things they wouldn't. if you want to use eudio as an example, even they have aphros, but they're regulated and used for events and only allowed to be used with the knowledge and consent of all parties, icly and oocly.

personally, i'm okay with noncon/dubcon as kinks and if people want to play it, it's really not like anyone in a game tries to spring it on someone unsuspecting, since that's going to get them kicked out of a game (and no one would blame the other party for calling foul).

one thing i liked about coa that isn't done much were the random events that gave people a chance to play out fucked up shit. it wouldn't necessarily have to be monster kink, but things like aphro water or sex pollen or something like the cracky events that used to happen wouldn't really be something i'd say would be bad. as long as, like all games like that, involvement is optional and chars have an ic way of opting out without having to pretend this thing happened and they just handwaved it if they don't like it, i don't see why blanket events like that can't happen in a sex game. if it is a sex game, then that's why chars are joining. to play out sex. some chars need a reason to step outside their comfort zones and events like that help. especially in a game where you're brought in consensually.

part of the issue i think is going to come up is the overkill on 'consent'. amat and coa were 'fuck or die/get brainwashed into fucking', so that took away autonomy and bothered a lot of people, which kept them from joining. eudio's great for people that want to play consensual scenarios, but the absolute negation of being able to play something violent or dubcon/noncon or even kinky without either having the char booted from the game or the player bitched about (see the recent wank on wg over the possible maximoffcest) is the problem people have with eudio. it's like being stuck in the bible belt and having your sex life monitored daily. there's no reason that a game that lets you join consensually can't allow for kink and dubcon/noncon. as long as, like with anything sexual/graphic/kinky/triggery, you lock and warn for it, anyone complaining can just shut up. make a rule that it's allowed and then no one can bitch without looking like an asshole.

you're still going to need the consent of both players to play something out, but as it's between them and them alone, those are the only parties that really need to be on board with it. anyone else having a problem is just reading something they have a warning for that they won't like and then crying that they don't like it. too bad for them.

have a consent based game, yes, but don't be afraid to allow for other scenarios. as long as people take the necessary steps and don't break the rules, who cares? if people don't like it, they don't have to join.

(and i don't agree with the concept of there being so many other options out there. there really aren't. not anymore.)

and this got mega tldr. sorry.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

i think that with this kind of thing, you're going to get a second eudio where everyone ignores the monsters. you need to ease up on some part of this or the darker characters and players who might be interested in the monsters otherwise are going to stay away.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

This whole thread is a case example of why we don't get new games in this hobby.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

no, this whole thread is an example of people that think they're coming up with something new, but they're just rehashing the same old bullshit and wondering why no one wants to play in it, then getting upset when no one wants to join. you ask, people answered. you don't like the answer so now it's the fault of the people who didn't jump up and down and praise your idea.

i get gauging interest, but if people are suggesting things that differ from what you're offering or suggesting alternatives, maybe look at that as the answer to your interest. no one's interested in it as you suggested. you'd have to tweak it if you want players. that's your answer. you can put the game up or hold off as you want, but don't ask for interest and suggestions and pull a wah when no one says your idea is perfect off the ground.

honestly? go back and look at other game idea threads. MOST of them get nitpicked from the start. even the ones people are excited over. the game ideas thread is usually a place to hash out what the idea man/woman can do to make it more palatable for the people who are showing an interest in it. in this case, you've got things suggested that you (the op) aren't comfortable with putting up, but that doesn't make them any less valid as things that people want to see. this is what people want. if you're not willing to go that way, then you're going to have to prepare yourself for a low turnout. and the reason for that is because of the things said here. no one says you have to take every suggestion or change everything "wah, make it for ocs/crau - don't make it for ocs/crau". there's always going to be someone wanting something you don't want. you just have to decide how far you're willing to bend to put up with it if you want an actual showing. because as it stands, the original idea is a generic mashup of the sex/cuddle games we've had, only without anything to draw in more than the cuddle crowd. if you want eudio v.2, go ahead and do that, but don't complain when people aren't joining it because eudio already exists.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

damn u mad

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, that's not me. There are multiple other people that have commented to the thread, including other people that have apparently felt the need to try to bolster me up.

But thanks. This help cleared up whether modding was a good idea or not. If this is what I have to look forward to, I guess it's not. Maybe I'll try again later in the future when I have more patience.

Good luck finding mods of new games. If dwrp keeps being this way, where they can't even keep things civil when talking about things in the game-building stage, it's not going to be easy.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Because noncon and aphros have never been rehashed in sex games. I can't believe you typed this post in all seriousness in a thread that had someone actually suggesting sex pollen in this year of our Lord 2016.

I'll say it again, this is why we don't get new games, this totally unnecessary abrasiveness. We also don't get them because apparently you personally are too brick stupid to understand the concept of multiple anons in a thread.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

I doubt you're going to get the conflict you're looking for in a game that's mostly cuddly SOL and it's not what I look for in sex games, but I wish you luck. I wouldn't have thought Eudio would get as big as it did, either, so obviously this is some people's cup of tea.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Thanks, anon. fwiw, I hope someone else does make the sex game you'd be looking for. I hope we keep getting more options in RP so everyone can get what they want.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, you're going to be catering to a very niche group with this type of premise. There are three major groups of characters that don't really fit in at Eudio:

1. Characters who just wouldn't do much sexually without some sort of aphro.
2. Characters who wouldn't agree to a deal at all.
3. Villain characters inappropriate for the light-hearted setting.

This game seems like it would have the same limitations as Eudio, so your demographic would pretty much be "players that already like Eudio but don't like the fact that the consent aspect extends beyond sex and into things like fights and events". Which, hey, might be a few people.

But Eudio is a huge, established game and those people may already play there even if they're a little meh on that one aspect. Getting them to try a new game instead when an established game mostly fills the same niche (a purely consensual cuddle game). I don't know if DWRP is big enough to sustain two separate cuddlegames that both cater to the same demographics. I guess all I can suggest is either:

1. Don't make the game purely light hearted. Allow for darker themes - just don't allow non-con plots. This will allow players to app in characters that aren't totally suitable for the conflict-free environment of Eudio and thus attract more players. Of course players should still acknowledge that if they app a murderer, they can't play the type of plot that would lead to non-consensual sex, but if they can go darker than Eudio in non-sex areas it'd be more appealing. However, you might want to keep the game light hearted and focus most of the conflict on PCs vs monsters rather than vs each other, so this might not be a good option.

OR

2. Foster an environment where players are free and encouraged to play the kinks and pairings that they want even if they're not totally IC. That doesn't mean free reign to play total crack personality-wise, but a compromise between what the players want to play and what the characters would ICly do. TBH, the reason I like aphro in my sex games is because it's a good excuse to play things I want to play without having to find some wild kinkster of a character. I'd be perfectly happy with "this is a consent based game so no aphro, but don't be harsh on people for the smut that they play".

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, I'm tabling all this for now because the current atmosphere just isn't one I want to mod in. (Your comment is fine, it's been a few of the others).

Number one is definitely what I was going for, so thank you for the suggestion. I'll save it and keep it under my hat if I ever revisit this later.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry about what happened in this thread, anon. For the record, I think people are really thirsty for a kinkier smut game right now. With the whole Midsyn fiasco going down, Tanagura is iirc really the only decent sized smut game left and the plot isn't everyone's cuppa. Eudio's already huge, and I haven't seen any new smut game ideas proposed in a while, so people see another consent only game being proposed and try to make it into a more conventional smut game.

You might have better luck trying this again after another smut game gains traction to replace all the closed ones.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

sorry your game idea got shit all over, anon. i just saw it this morning and thought the initial idea sounded fun. can't really blame you for not wanting to mod after the response you got, though.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Um, I'm not gonna lie, this really disappoints me. Personally, I could give no less fucks one way or the other if dub or non-con is allowed in a game, because I don't play them (if someone else wants to, then good for them) so I don't have a horse in that race. I'm just a fairly newish dwrp-er and Eudio doesn't have the character that I want to play open, so I was actually super stoked about this game idea and would have been super on board with joining.

That said, as a previous mod on other servers, I don't fucking blame you for a second for deciding you're not down anymore, after this shit storm. Good lord.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

honestly, if you're this thin-skinned you would have never made it as a mod and probably would have ragequitted your game about two months into it.

and no one wants another moo.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

OR

3. Consider that this game is not made for you personally and go find or make another one? Not every game has to cater to every player.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

Way to be snippy, anon. I wasn't making any demands, I was offering polite suggestions to a mod who asked for them. Go froth at the people trying to prod the mod into changing the consent rule instead.

Not every game has to cater to every player, but the mod asked for input and I gave suggestions about how to be a little less niche and be able to compete with a huge established game. The mod is free to take them or leave them.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

There have been people in this thread that have ignored the intended consent-based premise and gotten pushy when they didn't get what they want, or have been hostile or snide in their tone, but this was an example of good crit that you're are criticizing.

The wording was polite and there was a suggestion that tried to offer alternate sources of conflict without pushing noncon. It was a good example of what some other parts of the thread should've been. The mod themselves seemed to appreciate it and they weren't shy about rejecting suggestions in other places. While I think there are places where anons got too pushy or rude this wasn't one of them, anon.

Re: GAME IDEAS

[(Anonymous)]

For what it's worth, this is the kind of comment I'd love to receive posting a game idea. Guess the noncon pushing anon has everyone trigger happy.

[socksinthecity]

Hey anon, I think I can see what you're aiming for here and as someone that plays at Eudio and enjoys it there, but would maybe also like another sex game with more conflict, I like the cut of your jib with this idea. I think there's a lot of room to use some of the better suggestions in this thread to make it a game with some SOL but also maybe some mod-run and player-run conflicts that help characters relate to each other, without need for any things that break sexual consent.

Also, while I enjoy noncon and dubcon myself I also recognize that it's good for RP to have a handful of sex games without it for those that are uncomfortable with it or have traumas that make them not want to deal with it, and I can see how that might conflict with the theme you're aiming for. And while Eudio's a nice alternative it's pretty much the only one and the game doesn't allow for many villain plots or peril at all. You're right that there's a potential niche here even if it's a small one. I know a lot of the people that might like this that aren't the types to go on rpa to see this.

So if you want to pass the idea off to someone or have a comod that can maybe take a firmer hand with people for you, pop me a PM to this sock. I wouldn't be able to jump in right away, but it sounds like you'd maybe need some time before you got to it too, so maybe we could work on it over time and build it up together. I also know people to advertise to that might be interested.

[sockbuilding]

If there's room for one more, I'm happy to be a list-mod and play the occasional NPC.

Also a bit tied up work-wise right this moment, but if you're interested, I'd also be happy to plot with you in the meantime and have a few ideas for game mechanics?

Work commitments should clear up around the middle of july.