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not really, no. because they want it to be eudio, but with allowances for conflict and negative consequences. what i'm trying to say isn't that it should be all rape all the time, because i don't like that and i don't join games like that. but the allowance for it shouldn't have been outlawed just because it's a consensual sex game. only the consensual part would apply towards making the energy or going towards the fix for the planet, but just outlawing all together the possibility of it when you can have other kinks and also negative cr/fights/VORE (with consent), it just becomes an 'okay, but why not this single one?'

fwiw, non-smut games that allow smut have on occasion had dubcon/noncon scenarios. it's not frequent. it's not in anyone's face. it's locked and warned for. the allowance of it doesn't take over the game and make it Rape-City. people generally play out dubcon/noncon IN GAMES with a little fucking taste, just like they play out most kinks/triggery subject matter with taste. there's a difference in a game that forces rape all the time (fuck or die/fuck or we're tweaking your brain and making you fuck) and a game that you join with consent where bad things can happen and dubcon/noncon might be one of those. the likelihood of it being played out often would be slim to none, and anyone that does play out triggery kinks distastefully usually get warned then booted. they're the type to be like that regardless of the kink. 'let me put up a network post of me using this girl as a slave and fucking her live on air to piss someone else off'. but hey, it's consensual, so that would fly in this game. same with underage (and while they could say no to pedos, what about 16/17 year olds? unless they make it an 18+ game, you're going to have underage sex. and expect to hear people bitching about, 'but my whole canon is 16/17').

like i said, i don't play it, haven't really been able to in a game (because it's not a fit for my chars), but i'm not against the idea of dubcon with aphros or weird scenarios like that. as long as players are cool with it, the posts are locked/warned for, it shouldn't matter. just like incest with warnings or scat with warnings. or look, i'm fucking a werewolf in werewolf form and being knotted with warnings. and while rl rape is terrible and not a kink, roleplaying it is (even in rl scenarios between consenting parties).

You're talking more about OOC preferences towards kinks. Mod and up-thread anon are talking about attempting to rule out OOC kink preferences in a world where the IC consequences (whether via including aphros or simply by predilections of the character) would not only not jive with the setting that mod is trying to build, but might derail the action, should those behaviours get caught out.

Ia about allowing various kinks in a smut game being a generally nice premise, and tbh the idea of another smut game fuelling/fuelled by gods etc. doesn't strike my fancy... but I can see the merit of trying to build a world in which aphros aren't used as artificial icebreakers. Surely there's another way to build connections and smutty relationships that doesn't break OOC boundaries with characters and doesn't involve the game forcing them to get in the groove against their will?

You really don't?

Fine. You gotta room with either a foot fetishist or a rapist. Pick.

That's the ic difference (wah, wah, the other characters wouldn't have to, like, know. Yeah, but the players would, so the narrative turns from rooming with Todd, to rooming with Todd, who rapes people, possibly people I know and care about, without my knowing. Something I'd play tbh. But not in a happy cuddle-sex-game. And I don't blame people who wouldn't want to play it at all, anywhere, either).

OOCly, the potential mod not being comfortable with it, along with, what I'm guessing, is a small but not insubstantial minority of rpers and an even bigger group of us who don't mind consent-only is really plenty reason enough on its own to make a game without noncon.

>people generally play out dubcon/noncon IN GAMES with a little fucking taste

Yes, I know. I play noncon. And?

>there's a difference in a game that forces rape all the time [...] and a game that you join with consent where bad things can happen and dubcon/noncon might be one of those

Yes. And neither are games the Op is interested in modding or people squicked/legit triggered (as in diagnosed with actual ptsd) by rape want to play in, so... your point?

>and expect to hear people bitching about, 'but my whole canon is 16/17'

Lots of games have been or are 18+ for player and characters both. If people want to embarrass themselves by bitching about it, they're welcome to, I guess. But honestly, I haven't seen too many players keen on pitching a fit about 18+ rules, especially since for most canons, you can just age characters up by a year or two without problem.

>rl rape is terrible and not a kink, roleplaying it is (even in rl scenarios between consenting parties)

I'm aware. As is, I believe, everyone else here. That still doesn't mean every game in existence has to cater to/allow that specific kink.

Seriously, I'm mad. When people complained about noncon sex games, I was first in line to tell them to let people have their fun and to make their own games without rape-play or fuck-or-die if it bothered them. Now they do, and they get whined at, sniped at and argued with by people like you who seemingly can't fathom the idea that people want to play smut in a magical adventure-land while fighting for light, love and peace for all without dealing with motherfucking rape. Not as a threat, not as a possibility, not as something that happened to someone else, whether you know it or not.
And that they are fucking entitled to fucking do that if they fucking want to.

>it shouldn't matter

That's NOT your call.

and i never once said it was. you're very quick to jump from someone suggesting and possibly making an argument for something to forcing someone to do something. i've said multiple times in this that if they or anyone wants to do something for whatever reason, just be upfront with the whys. no one expects 'i was molested once so no' as an actual reason. all you need is 'i don't like it.' my overall nitpickiness comes from trying to validate it beyond preference when the attempts to do so don't actually line up. that's it. they even conceded to leaving out the goddess option because in the end, it was preference over validity. just be upfront with it.

outside of that, it was mostly just pointing out that you can do what you want, but there's already a consensual game all about consent that's available. that you can play kinks in. just not dubcon/noncon. which is what this is shaping up to be and that's why i pointed it out.

goddamn, you all are so salty for wank and being righteous over shit. take a breather.

> my overall nitpickiness comes from trying to validate it beyond preference

So do you not get how presumptuous and tone-deaf that is, or..?

> because in the end, it was preference over validity

Ho-ly fuck. Asked and answered.

You know, I read OP's original post and her replies again and I don't see someone being unclear about her intentions at all.
In fact, what I see is someone very politely making it clear what they want:

Quoting from her second post(http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/66429.html?thread=207687037#cmt207687037)

>As for the rest, personally I don't have issues with noncon in general as a kink, but I'd like it to have a game vibe where characters feel safe on the sexual end of things because the only threat is the monsters.

>The game would be meant more for the latter [Characters who would leave if they thought drugs and/or coercion were involved]. If some characters don't fit, there are fortunately other options of sex games out there with different setups. Right now, though, there don't seem to be many cuddle/consent-based games with sources of conflict.

[bolding mine]

That's really fucking upfront, unless you're the type of person who mistakes manners for weaknesses that can be used to wheedle and argue your way into getting what you're after.

Oh, and for fun, you wrote:
>outside of that, it was mostly just pointing out that you can do what you want, but there's already a consensual game all about consent that's available. that you can play kinks in. just not dubcon/noncon. which is what this is shaping up to be and that's why i pointed it out.

From the same post I linked, from OP:

>instead of using aphros I'd have it be like Eudio

But thanks for pointing out the obvious. As for what this game was "shaping up to be", go read the premise again, with a bit less of a boner for what you want it to be instead of what it is. Here, I'll even help you, from the OP:

>tl;dr summary

- a fantasy (science fantasy?) consent-based game with lots of SOL and a little conflict, where characters fight the occasional monster attack with their emoooshuns.

congratulations on outdoing me with essays.

and none of that actually counted for what i was saying. your reading comprehension is terrible. please quit while you're ahead.

oh sweetie I know, you're so misunderstood.
It's your genius, it blinds people. You're like Sherlock that way.

It's not your fault.

Kinda hoping we'll get "preference over validity" for next post title though. It would be so sad if you were cheated out of both top title and sex pollen in the same month.

How does it not matter? You said you wanted the OP to just say they didn't want noncon in their game as a preference. That's what OP said.

Shh, you just don't comprehend the beauty and wisdom of Sherlock-anon. Though why they had to insult essays be likening them to this shit-show, I don't know and and find hard to take on pure faith, even on their superior word.

They're not the original anon that called you on writing essays, that was me. I gave up on you halfway through the conversation because you're so obtuse and another anon or anons took over.

Their reading comprehension is fine. Your opinions all boil down to "I can be as rude and pushy as I want" and thin justifications as to why it's okay.

...after reading this I want to play in this potential game more, actually. Well put.

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