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Erik-mun? You may not tag into everything or everyone, but when you do tag, it's always IC and a great read. I think people in general need to stop getting butt-hurt when a certain character won't tag with them. Just because you don't have CR with a certain character doesn't mean you can't enjoy their threads with other characters. And frankly, if the mun doesn't want to tag with you, the CR probably wouldn't be all that good to begin with since it would probably come off as forced. Erik isn't exactly a social butterfly, so I don't think it's unreasonable that he mostly speaks privately.

Homestuck cast? I don't get why people hate on you. You aren't cliquey, most of your posts are open and fun, and you tag all over the place. Not everyone has to find you interesting or even funny, but I don't see why anyone would hate on you just for playing. It's not exactly difficult to avoid someone in RP. And besides, I personally find most of you hilarious and awesome.

Transformers cast? I'm not familiar with the canon at all, so I don't know if people saying your characters are OOC actually have any merit, but I don't think it generally matters so long as no one is being beaten over the head with it and you guys are all having fun. Plus that's the kind of thing people should bring up in HMDs.

All in all, it pisses me off when people will make snide remarks in rpanons rather than give concrit in the HMDs that almost everyone has. It's like one person says something negative and suddenly everyone else jumps on the hate wagon and decides that while everyone is complaining about one thing, this might be a good time to bring up something else that they dislike.

I can't stop anyone from stating their opinions, but I sure as hell can state mine too. This is the best game I've ever played, and with rare exception, it has some of the best players I've ever played with.

Fuck the haters. I love Sing.

will you be my valentine?

Fuck yes <33333

Only because I don't interact with the Homestuck cast very often as it's a canon I have issues with. The rest all have problems though, and you have to be blind to miss them.

You don't join a panfandom game to interact with a tiny group. Plus all this bullshit that ended up forcing a character out of the game doesn't make the player look any better.

And the above comment about the Transformers cast covers the biggest issues I have with them so I'm not going over it all again.

Most of the Homestuck cast have HMDs that allow for people to request not to be tagged by them. Here's my recommendation: use it. Because if your problems with the canon mean you don't want to interact with them, I'm sure they wouldn't want to interact with you either. Save everyone, yourself included, some extraneous hardship.

You have bad reading comprehension. Anon was doing -2/3 because they couldn't speak to the homestuck crit. However, they are attesting that the other 2 problems cited in the sing thread are valid. They didn't seem to have a great amount of ire against the homestuck cast; they simply don't interact much with those characters because they're not a fan of the canon.

Problems are fine and everyone has them, but you can either go to the HMD for the specific person you have a problem with and let them know one-and-one (and usually just as anonymously as here) or you can make a sweeping general statement denouncing an entire cast on a public forum, which is bullshit.

"You don't join a panfandom game to interact with a tiny group." Then why is it OK for Anya-mun (who I have no problem with, for the record) to drop primarily because she wouldn't get CR with said tiny group, when it's not OK for Erik-mun to primarily interact with characters related to his canon? You make it seem like Erik-mun forced Anya-mun out, but honestly, I get the impression that Anya-mun probably wouldn't have apped if the game didn't have an Erik, just like the person who apped Blonsky probably apped because of our Banner. Some people app characters with particular casts or characters in mind. Some people like to play in small groups because they don't have the time to spend with everyone and plots are easier to execute when you know a canon particularly well. I personally disagree with this approach and find it more fun to stretch out, but everyone tries to get something different out of LJRP. Personally, I join panfandom because there tends to be a wider range of people involved, not just because of the wider range of characters. Sometimes I play with only two or three broad canons in a game, sometimes more depending on the character, but I like to play with many many different muns, even if I only pick and choose one or two characters played by a particular mun. I just like to have the options. Plus panfandom RPs are usually just better-run and more open in my experience.

We all have certain casts or players we don't like in any game, rationally or otherwise. Erik-mun didn't have any desire to play with Anya. There are certain characters that I don't play with for equally shallow reasons and the same can be said about anyone. Erik-mun was honest, straight-forward, and apologetic about this. Some people may think that she should have at least tried to establish some CR to be polite and see if maybe their Anya would surprise her, but no one should be obligated to.

I feel bad for Anya-mun, don't get me wrong, but I personally don't think dropping a game because one mun gave you the cold shoulder is all that different from that person not wanting to interact with a particular character in the first place.

This is a good comment. Now with less anonfail, herp.

Well -- because Anya's mun is new. And because she can get the panfandom experience in any game she chooses to try. Singularity isn't the only RP where there are a lot of people and a lot of casts.

Frankly, if I knew that I'd be navigating awkwardness with a very close canonmate, and I hadn't had time to put down real roots in the game, I'd cut my losses too. She didn't do it dramatically, she didn't make a big deal out of it, she just took a look at what she would gain in this game and decided that it wasn't worth the potential for unhappiness.

That seems fine to me.

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Not getting into most of this, and of course no one has to play with people they don't wish to, but I just wanted to correct this one impression:

You make it seem like Erik-mun forced Anya-mun out, but honestly, I get the impression that Anya-mun probably wouldn't have apped if the game didn't have an Erik,

Actually, I apped primarily because of the great comics cast; I could take or leave xmfc Magnetos most of the time. But yeah, avoiding him completely forever IC, while trying to interact with a comics cast that all has CR with him without them ever running into each other? Lots of work, more likely to make me insecure and miserable than be fun, so I left.

I thought Erik-mun didn't even want Anya to be talking to Erik's CR about her deal. So trying to dictate someone else's CR with other characters/players is okay?

Then why is it OK for Anya-mun (who I have no problem with, for the record) to drop primarily because she wouldn't get CR with said tiny group, when it's not OK for Erik-mun to primarily interact with characters related to his canon?

Those are apples and oranges. Besides, the fact that Erik-mun mostly plays with canon-related characters isn't much relevant to them refusing CR with Anya. In fact, it makes their refusal look worse.

...Yes, because forcing someone else OOC, someone who is willing to go out of their way to make things comfortable, just because you have a problem with the AU and character and don't want unexpected CR and flat-out say you will avoid anyone who would bring up the character? Is fucking douchey.

And, ooooh, HMDing. Except that they're not likely to listen, because the mun tried to go out of their way to get CR, remain IC and make everyone comfortable. She was bluntly told that, because Erik-mun hates the character, he wouldn't tag with her or any of her CR.

White knight harder.

Umm, I'm not sure what Plurk you read, but the one I read didn't play out that way.

Yes, Erik-mun said that they didn't want to play with the character because she just doesn't like Anya and didn't want to do the whole daddy drama again.

But when another mun came up and said they were worried about how it would affect their CR with Erik, Erik-mun said that they would be fine with the person interacting with Anya, they would just prefer their character not press the subject IC. They even went so far as to imply that they wouldn't take it personally if the other player didn't want to tag Erik because of this.

Maybe you should read the whole Plurk, not just the parts that fuel your rage-boner.

the thing is, the eric-mun didn't try to work with them AT ALL. I 100% agree that you shouldn't have to spend hours tagging something you don't enjoy, and being upfront is better.

HOWEVER.

You are in a community game, and that means, to an extent, playing well with others. if eric-mun had said "I don't like the AU, I've played this same plot line twice already in game, and don't want strong CR between them, so how can we hand wave this and work around it IC to minmize that, without forcing you OOC and settling things for everyone?" I would be behind you. The anya-mun was trying to work out things, and eric-mun just dug in their heels and refused. And THAT to me is the problem, not their lack of intrest in playing with anya.

If you stick your fingers in your ears any harder, you're liable to pop your eardrums. Stop for your own sake.

Wow, what a convincing argument. You're right! I should stop enjoying the RP I play in and caring about the people I enjoy playing with. For my own sake.

Oh wait, no. That doesn't make any sense, does it?

I think what you MEANT to say was that I should stop playing there for YOUR sake because you're butt-hurt and want everyone on the Internet to agree with your hate and leave the game because THEN we'll understand and MAYBE YOU'LL FINALLY FIND HAPPINESS or something. Even though NONE of the grievances listed above actually affect you in any way.

Yeah. No. Fuck you. Fuck anyone who thinks that the only counter-argument to something is "You're an idiot." If I'm CLEARLY missing the point or OBVIOUSLY ignoring something BLATANTLY obvious, then it shouldn't be too hard to school me.

Happy Valentine's Day! <3

Ugh, if you'd stop being so sarcastic and condescending for like half a second, you might realize that I didn't actually say any of the things you just imagined I said.

Pretending everything is hunky dory when it's not isn't going to do anybody any good. There's a name for that, it's called denial. I like this game, I used to love it and I'd really like to be able to love it again, but it's hard to deny that there's a lot of crap in it right now on basically every single end, from the players to the mods. Just getting into some big hugbox circlejerk thing and then getting hostile as shit when challenged is just gonna make it worse, and that really pisses me off.

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I think they meant "stop whiteknighting and arguing with anons for your own sake".

I have to agree. And for someone who wrote "fuck the haters" you sure seem eager to convert them.

jsyk, you sound really butthurt.

jsyk, you sound like a condescending jackass.

It's anoncomm. EVERYONE either sounds butthurt or circlejerking. And pointing it out just makes you seem worse than that.

i'd rather be a jackass than sound like i'm personally offended that people don't share my opinions about a game.

protip: what erik-mun did was not cool

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