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Only because I don't interact with the Homestuck cast very often as it's a canon I have issues with. The rest all have problems though, and you have to be blind to miss them.

You don't join a panfandom game to interact with a tiny group. Plus all this bullshit that ended up forcing a character out of the game doesn't make the player look any better.

And the above comment about the Transformers cast covers the biggest issues I have with them so I'm not going over it all again.

Most of the Homestuck cast have HMDs that allow for people to request not to be tagged by them. Here's my recommendation: use it. Because if your problems with the canon mean you don't want to interact with them, I'm sure they wouldn't want to interact with you either. Save everyone, yourself included, some extraneous hardship.

You have bad reading comprehension. Anon was doing -2/3 because they couldn't speak to the homestuck crit. However, they are attesting that the other 2 problems cited in the sing thread are valid. They didn't seem to have a great amount of ire against the homestuck cast; they simply don't interact much with those characters because they're not a fan of the canon.

Problems are fine and everyone has them, but you can either go to the HMD for the specific person you have a problem with and let them know one-and-one (and usually just as anonymously as here) or you can make a sweeping general statement denouncing an entire cast on a public forum, which is bullshit.

"You don't join a panfandom game to interact with a tiny group." Then why is it OK for Anya-mun (who I have no problem with, for the record) to drop primarily because she wouldn't get CR with said tiny group, when it's not OK for Erik-mun to primarily interact with characters related to his canon? You make it seem like Erik-mun forced Anya-mun out, but honestly, I get the impression that Anya-mun probably wouldn't have apped if the game didn't have an Erik, just like the person who apped Blonsky probably apped because of our Banner. Some people app characters with particular casts or characters in mind. Some people like to play in small groups because they don't have the time to spend with everyone and plots are easier to execute when you know a canon particularly well. I personally disagree with this approach and find it more fun to stretch out, but everyone tries to get something different out of LJRP. Personally, I join panfandom because there tends to be a wider range of people involved, not just because of the wider range of characters. Sometimes I play with only two or three broad canons in a game, sometimes more depending on the character, but I like to play with many many different muns, even if I only pick and choose one or two characters played by a particular mun. I just like to have the options. Plus panfandom RPs are usually just better-run and more open in my experience.

We all have certain casts or players we don't like in any game, rationally or otherwise. Erik-mun didn't have any desire to play with Anya. There are certain characters that I don't play with for equally shallow reasons and the same can be said about anyone. Erik-mun was honest, straight-forward, and apologetic about this. Some people may think that she should have at least tried to establish some CR to be polite and see if maybe their Anya would surprise her, but no one should be obligated to.

I feel bad for Anya-mun, don't get me wrong, but I personally don't think dropping a game because one mun gave you the cold shoulder is all that different from that person not wanting to interact with a particular character in the first place.

This is a good comment. Now with less anonfail, herp.

Well -- because Anya's mun is new. And because she can get the panfandom experience in any game she chooses to try. Singularity isn't the only RP where there are a lot of people and a lot of casts.

Frankly, if I knew that I'd be navigating awkwardness with a very close canonmate, and I hadn't had time to put down real roots in the game, I'd cut my losses too. She didn't do it dramatically, she didn't make a big deal out of it, she just took a look at what she would gain in this game and decided that it wasn't worth the potential for unhappiness.

That seems fine to me.

I agree! I just don't see it as any different than a mun cutting their losses rather than navigating awkwardness trying to force out CR with a character they strongly dislike for the sake of politeness or whatever. Erik-mun was very straight-forward, didn't string anyone along, didn't make a big speech or attack the mun personally, and apologized multiple times for being uninterested.

On the other hand, I've had it happen where I eventually find out after several failed attempts at CR that a particular canonmate probably doesn't actually want to interact with mine, but is afraid to come out and say so. Frankly, I'd prefer it if more players did what Erik-mun did with me and just said "Sorry, don't waste your time trying to develop CR and plots with me because my heart won't be in it. Nothing personal." To me, that's how you SHOULD handle that particular situation.

So to sum up, Anya-mun dropping instead of dragging it out because she didn't get the CR she wanted and she didn't want to have to tiptoe around a canonmate? Totally fine. Erik-mun being honest with Anya-mun that she didn't want to RP with Anya? Also totally fine.

If Erik-mun was unapologetic, lied about her reasons, or just gave Anya-mun the silent treatment, then I could understand people being upset about this. But that's not what happened.

Ahh, I see what you're getting at.

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If Erik-mun was unapologetic, lied about her reasons, or just gave Anya-mun the silent treatment, then I could understand people being upset about this.

Thing is, I do think Erik-mun lied. She said she didn't want to deal with the AU IC - to have Erik run across another person with a grudge. And when Anya-mun offered other ways of dealing, she turned them down. It read like "I will play angst, torture, and drama, but not with you", to a player who was new and hadn't even had a chance to be established.

And that does not sit well with me, period. I'm not an anon up in arms and frothing at the mouth over this, but I do not like that kind of response to a new player.

Erik-mun made it pretty clear that she didn't want to deal with the daddy drama AND that she wasn't comfortable with the AU.

A few people have cited the whole bb!Charles thing as hypocrisy, but I don't see it. bb!Charles isn't his child, for one thing, so the character dynamic is drastically different. For another, I'm guessing Erik-mun finds that particular AU interesting.

Whereas with Anya, Erik had just barely made some headway with his daddy drama regarding the Ultimates AU and it seemed like Anya would probably play out in a very similar fashion and it would feel like a retread and her heart probably wouldn't be into playing it. On top of that, I'm guessing Erik-mun simply wasn't fond of the AU Anya comes from.

I don't think it was about Erik-mun not wanting to play angst, etc. Nor do I think it was about Erik-mun not wanting to play with Anya-mun. I think it was specifically Erik-mun not liking Anya's AU and not wanting to do the whole "child reconciliation" thing again, even if it did play out slightly differently, as Anya-mun tried to reassure Erik-mun of.

Then again, I can't really speak for Erik-mun and I don't know what she was thinking. Perhaps she did bend the truth and should have been more direct about her feelings from the get-go. But ultimately, I thought her feelings were pretty clear on the matter when all was said and done. Yeah, could have been handled better, but it didn't come off as particularly dishonest, at least not in the sort of way that gets me pissed off.

Not getting into most of this, and of course no one has to play with people they don't wish to, but I just wanted to correct this one impression:

You make it seem like Erik-mun forced Anya-mun out, but honestly, I get the impression that Anya-mun probably wouldn't have apped if the game didn't have an Erik,

Actually, I apped primarily because of the great comics cast; I could take or leave xmfc Magnetos most of the time. But yeah, avoiding him completely forever IC, while trying to interact with a comics cast that all has CR with him without them ever running into each other? Lots of work, more likely to make me insecure and miserable than be fun, so I left.

I thought Erik-mun didn't even want Anya to be talking to Erik's CR about her deal. So trying to dictate someone else's CR with other characters/players is okay?

Then why is it OK for Anya-mun (who I have no problem with, for the record) to drop primarily because she wouldn't get CR with said tiny group, when it's not OK for Erik-mun to primarily interact with characters related to his canon?

Those are apples and oranges. Besides, the fact that Erik-mun mostly plays with canon-related characters isn't much relevant to them refusing CR with Anya. In fact, it makes their refusal look worse.

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