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got a shipping notification for a book a pre-ordered! can't wait to add it to my collection

Nah, they're practically nonexistent in the UK- had to google them to even know what it was.

Little local family run Japanese restaurant, only been open a couple weeks.

Honestly? Goddamn Harry Potter next gen oc's from 2012/2013.

We can't all be as involved as you are.

what does it mean

a mystery

I realized the same thing happened to dear_mun a while back. It made me super sad because I had some wildly fun threads there back in the day :(

Yeah, same here. Wayback has some pages but not the threads.

I'll give it a check but I'm not hopeful. It never seems to have what I'm looking for

it's a bit of a toss-up because i think the storyline of p4 is better but the characters of p3 are better. together they'd make the perfect game.

for transparency, i'll tell you i dropped it a little after the pyramid/futaba's dungeon. keep in mind that when this game came out, and when i played it, the BLM protests were at their height and that definitely colored my experience. should it considering it was made by a foreign team? probably not, but it is what it is. game still sucks.

the combat of p5 is fun and flashy but it isn't that different from p4. once you've mastered the gameplay of a persona game you've mastered them all, so all that's left is characters and storyline. i've played p4 more recently so i will mostly compare to it.

you know how in persona 4 the character struggles feel ahead of their time and actually offer some commentary on the state of society and the process of mourning? be prepared for NONE of that in a way that's new or refreshing. the story tries to force an identity on the MC that doesn't make any fucking sense. the guy has no rizz because he's a blank slate but it pushes this narrative that he's a ~thief of hearts~ and ~heartbreaker~. i honestly can't even remember a lot of the characters deals, ryuji? hates his mean teacher? yusuke's just a weirdo who wants to draw art of his naked female classmates? futaba's just a suicidal neet with hackzorz skills? instead of characters facing themselves and growing it feels more like "here's our sexy mc man, he'll go into your brain and give you a ~change of heart~ so you're all fixed!" like snapping someone out of a trance instead of, you know, making them confront their actual flaws.

the whole point of the story felt like it was supposed to be "kids don't have safe adults anymore" but didn't want to properly commit to being anti-authority in any way that was actually satisfying. i recall multiple times the characters being like "we should go to the police actually" and then eventually they work with(?) a detective that's one character's older sister in spite of being like "no the police are bad actually"? like it was SO wishy washy

i said it more succinctly earlier, it's just all flash no substance

da, agreeing with this 100000% other than putting p4 on a pedestal; p5 makes pretty much everything look like literature by virtue of being so unabashedly shallow, but p4 was... not great itself. it definitely tried, though! which is much more than p5 did. it feels like a gradual downward gradient since p3, which had clunky execution, but mostly commit to what it was trying to say (basing this off the original p3, i have not played p3r).

dda

i'm picky with ships, so for me, it would have to be with a character that i have big feels for. if i'm playing a character that's m/f in series, i generally play him as m/f in memes because the m/m's in canon, for me, don't ring right or i don't like the dynamic between them at all. i might be open to crosscanon m/m, but i'm not going to put that because i know i'm not open to ALL crosscanon m/m. i'm picky. so it would have to be a character i'm really drawn to and i could maybe see throwing my usually straight dude at so i can have pretty boys doing pretty boy stuff.

that's generally my mindset when i play 'straight' or straight-leaning chars that i don't see as being that fluid in the canon i'm playing from. some of the m's or f's are more bi leaning, and i'll play those as ota and happily so. but it's harder for me to ota someone (FOR ME) when i hate the options for same sex in their canon. doesn't mean i hate the chars or anything, but the ships don't work for me. and since i'm so picky, i'd rather just put 'strongly preferred' or something similar or 'pm for details' if i'm open to the possibility, but only specific possibilities. i don't LIKE saying no to people. i'm thankful when and if anyone reaches out to my characters wanting to play. but i am very particular about ships, and i find it's ruder to say 'no to everything here, maybe this one char from this one canon but none from this and oh, i like this one too' than just limited preferences.

and i rambled.

>the guy has no rizz because he's a blank slate but it pushes this narrative that he's a ~thief of hearts~ and ~heartbreaker~

lol yeah i can't stand the p5 protag

p3 and p4 obviously also had protags that were meant to be wish fulfillment blank slates for people to project onto, but at least they felt like they could be coherent characters nonetheless

as someone playing persona 3 reload and, frankly, bored by the story and characters i disagree. i find myself missing the updated gameplay of persona 5 and am considering revisiting it for that reason. the dungeons are just fun, yes you run into issues when replaying because the layouts don't change but frankly the rng floors of p3 and p4 are not actually better. they're not unique, they're not interesting, and they offer a copy/pasted experience

at least in persona 5 i found the heist segments engaging. the eng voice actors are all great. i do take issue with some of the characters and how they slap their own plots in the face (whoever went "hey, what if we go over a teacher harrassing his female students, including a party member, and then in the very next arc have another party member want to paint her nude for ~art~" is shit), but p5 is a solid experience just like p3 and p4

i also have to point out that p4 wasn't as ahead of its time as you might think (and i'm saying this as someone who liked p4 more than p3 and p5). yes, some of the issues tackled weren't highlighted in other games but there are many segments of the game that haven't aged well (the constant jokes about kanji that come across as homophobic, for example)

you are also misremembering the character's arcs/misconstruing them a bit (yusuke does want to paint ann nude, this is completely dropped later and he's just kind of a weird artist guy who is lacking in self-awareness. futaba's issues deal with her mourning her mom, feeling responsible for things that weren't her fault, and issues with her uncle as well as trying to be less dependent and work through her agoraphobia)

the whole point of the story iirc wasn't "kids don't have safe adults anymore" but "the system is corrupt and there's no way to fight against it, especially as a kid/teen." they also very briefly try to do a "power corrupts" arc using one of the party members and one of the social links, though they quickly brush it under the rug

ia there are things p5 does not do well, i just don't really agree with most of the other stuff you said

adding to this since i forgot: it's okay to have dropped it if you weren't enjoying it, especially at a time that was very stressful for many people and with so much going on in the world. i can definitely understand why p5 didn't land especially in that timeframe and in no way mean to say "oh, go play it," because if you didn't enjoy it then i doubt you'll enjoy it now

only that while there are genuine criticisms to be made about p5, the game is ultimately "just ok" same as the other persona games

I really loved persona 5 and enjoyed the hell out of it. it is a 'flashy' game and my main complaint I think is that it in some ways suffers from a premise that's all about taking on and dismantling horrible well entrenched institutions and not necessarily having a payoff that matches that theme, but otherwise? for me personally a 9/10 game with great characters and fun gameplay. and it's also esp fun if you like the thought of visiting and hanging in urban parts of Japan, esp Tokyo and shibuya.

i feel like im being used to set up other peoples fun and then thats it
i want to get something out of this too you know?

I should've saved the comment notifs I guess, but alas for my foolish self of years past, I just didn't even consider the possibility of the whole comm being mass deleted like that. I know better now.

Extremely petty small annoyance but rpers incorporating their character's non-English native language into tags in a way that I, a native speaker of that language, do not like. It's not even like they're butchering the language or anything, the nuances just aren't quite correct in their usage of it and I kind of wish they would just translate the words in a way that makes more contextual sense in English. But this is rp pretend fun times and I'm not here to police someone else's tags when it really does not impact me at all.

i totally don't understand anyone putting p4 on a pedestal especially with how poorly that game has aged since the writing for a lot of it was uncomfortable when it was new. It's like all of Atlus' bad, homophobic/misogynistic takes compiled in one game.

p5 also has uncomfortable writing in places so i'm not denying that but it at least it's playable without feeling gross about it.

You're not alone, anon. I feel the same way about how my language is mangled by rpers; the worse thing about the situation is that canons in the language (oftentimes with translations of dubious quality) are now more popular and I can expect to see it happening more than before.

it cannot possibly be more niche and stupid than the latest obscure iteration of the 'would you fuck me, i'd fuck me' meme

The characters in 3 are not any better or worse than the characters from 4 or 5. They're just a different flavor of okay.

SEES is a really high conflict team compared to the IT and PTs. When the game starts most of them have someone else in the group they clash with, half of them don't even like you, the player character, and only a few of them actually care about SEES's mission. It takes a really big portion of the main story and their individual social links before they start to feel like an actual team. And if that's the sort of arc you're into, it's great! SEES having to gradually build towards a sense of cohesion might be a really satisfying story for you.

But constant infighting and jealousy subplots made me hate most of the party members. I struggled to feel invested in the main story because it felt like it was just me and 3 other characters making any sort of effort to see things through. By the end of the game I was even tired of the characters I did like couldn't wait to be done with the whole group for good.

I found the casts of 4/5 more engaging because not only did that actually all seem to like each other, but they all had immediate and very obvious personal investment in the main story. Neither group had as many internal conflicts, but I found the ones they did have way more interesting because they felt like fights between friends who really cared about each other and their goal, rather than a bunch of bitchy coworkers who barely tolerate one another agruing over who does or doesn't deserve a promotion. And I'm sure to plenty of people that sounds boring as hell and they'd rather have a team with more friction.

The writing isnt brilliant in any of the 3 games, but acting like one is objectively better or worse than the others is just silly.

i've had a deep yearning to dabble in some hurt/comfort with bruno with a female character in a crosscanon ship. can be a one shot, can be a psl, i'm not picky. looking for ships and smut in particular but open to gen as well. drop a line and i'll hit you up.

whhops! wrong spot!

let's try this in the right place, shall we.

i've had a deep yearning to dabble in some hurt/comfort with bruno with a female character in a crosscanon ship. can be a one shot, can be a psl, i'm not picky. looking for ships and smut in particular but open to gen as well. drop a line and i'll hit you up.

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