rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2023-02-02 09:54 pm

if ur breath were baited, it would smell fishy

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Re: ATP/ENABLE ME

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
The middle ground.

Villains who can be low-key a lot of the time but still can murder people but at night and with repercussions.

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
as a mod, I think the problem with that is that what I'd consider the bare minimum to be actually engaged in the game would be tedious to enforce as both a mod and a player. a really active player can be doing 200+ comments a month, but IMO the line where I can safely say "okay, you're tagging enough to be involved and not just present" is about 50 comments. but no one wants to count 50 comments every month, and it's much easier to struggle and feel pressed for time when that's the enforced AC and not something you just happen to be hitting by having fun in the game.

ACs of 5-10 comments, on the other hand, are basically pulse checks. they function better than check-ins because they force you to actually play instead of just leaving a check-in comment, but doing 5-10 comments per month and that's it isn't meaningful engagement at any game.

a lower AC but with a note that the mods can ask you to show more if you're constantly just scraping by is a good middle ground between "high AC that is stressful and tedious" and "manageable AC but you just have to accept that some people will join and make exactly 10 comments per month from now until the game closes".

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oshit this looks like an amazing time! I have a few unused TTRPG characters that could fit into this setting, too!

Re: GENERAL DWRP QUESTIONS

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
I know that dwtools as an extension is no longer on the firefox store, but I could have sworn that there used to be a download and/or explanation of how to install it even though it was down. But with google search down, I can't find it anymore. Can anyone help?

Re: RL JOYS

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
my weigtloss has unlocked my phantom dimples which increases my cuteness by 5 points!!

https://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/26116.html

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
scroll all the way down, someone left a link in a comment.

Re: https://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/26116.html

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks anon!

Do you know how to actually apply this or know if there's a tutorial? I have the file, but opening it doesn't do anything?

ff hookups, inexperienced, casual sex

[personal profile] dommestics 2023-02-20 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
looking for some f/f casual hookups! meeting at a bar or a party, meeting at a nightclub, using a hookup app - all of these are good.

would love if one party were less experienced than the other at least in lesbian sex and the other party takes her home and shows her the ropes

slight preference for inexperienced partner but both are fine. any medium, any canon, 18+ only

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
op here: you're right, the math is definitely not to the tune of 30 players, 10 active, so on. i feel as if people got a bit stuck on that part because i was asked how someone consistently only doing minimum ac can make it hard on mods to plot, and i explained how that can happen. but people only making minimum ac regularly, for months and months, is definitely not only likely to affect the plot. it leads to tension in casts, where players become exasperated with missing castmates and need mediation, or it becomes a problem if you have a game cap and there are internal frustrations among players that a slot is taken up by someone who is not really engaged. it also lowers the overall momentum of the game.

i've seen some urging to just raise activity requirements, but the problem with that is really that high ac is no longer the dwrp norm outside of murder games, even if actually most players comfortably tag more than the 5-15 monthly comments that most games implement. raising activity requirements beyond the commonly accepted levels can make it harder to get new players. to me, it's also not ideal to slap a rule on everyone instead of letting mods have the option to apply rules that if you consistently only do minimum activity, they can step in. if the problem is actually one player, you fix that, not create a new game-wide rule and hope it also addresses the problem player.

but responses to this thread are really driving home that activity conversations remain very charged. i admit it baffles me. no one would bat an eye if a game has a rule saying don't be an asshole, then a mod warned someone for being an asshole by harrassing or powergaming or whatever. yet it somehow seems unthinkable for mods to be allowed to use their discretion in the case of people staying routinely unengaged with a game. i don't get why that is.

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
But the problem here is that you AREN'T warning anyone. I think a lot of people are missing the point and getting stuck on the nitty gritty of this being about AC when the actual issue here is that players in your game are toeing the lines of one of your rules and you need to consider whether the rule is unclear enough that they're doing this without realizing or if they don't even understand that it's an actual hard rule instead of a broadly stated expectation because you don't seem to be enforcing it.

If all these problems are being caused then you need to actually put your foot down and start having these discussions with your players instead of on rpanons.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
draw Gonzo seeing the sultry chicken

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
i get that we need to do that. i do actually take the cowardice part of the feedback to heart. i mentioned what's been holding us off, or at the very least me: the environment to enforce this kind of rule doesn't seem supportive, even if the rule is there. that matters. again, the nightfell backlash was recent, in november or december. this thread alone is filled with anons chiming in how it's not okay to implement a rule like this because it's too subjective, and you should instead raise activity. even worse is this subtext i see in some of the comments whereby automatically the problem must be with the mods or the plotting or the game, it surely cannot be an issue of some people, as you say, toeing the line on a rule.

this is where i disagree with you, however: you are articulating it, and i don't think you are doing it maliciously, as a problem of the mods not warning anyone. to be clear, the problem is the people who do this kind of thing. our lack of response does not fix the problem, absolutely and 100%, and maybe it increases the risk of this problem recuring. but it does not create the bad habit of the players who consistently only make minimum activity, and putting burden on mods in this way isn't really great. i'm sure a lot of anons will say i'm oversensitive and it's only semantics, until you realize it's happening all over this thread and i have 'nerve' for daring to vent anonymously about it.
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[personal profile] curewounds 2023-02-20 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
feel free to DM me!!

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
This IS a problem of the mods not warning anyone, though.

Please understand that I'm speaking to you right now as a mod who has dealt with this exact same issue: no, you can't prevent this bad habit from forming or keep players from lapsing into it but if you have a rule in place specifically addressing this kind of behaviour and you don't enforce it? That IS on you. Nothing gets resolved unless you actually take steps to resolve it.

Re: RP WOES

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 08:04 am (UTC)(link)
i'm just trying to underline that there's a difference between not immediately applying negative consequences to a problem and creating the problem.

as for the rest, i hear you and this thread has given me something to think about. maybe i need to step back from modding, because i feel stuck between what i'd like to do (see start of thread) and what i feel i can do, and it's not a positive feeling, so either find a proactive solution or pull out.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Installing_Extensions

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
maybe try this? I found it by googling "how to apply xpi files firefox"

Can't help beyond that, I've never used the extension before myself. I only know where to link people where it is because it gets asked for a lot.

Re: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Installing_Extensions

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
Worked perfectly, thank you!!!!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
Sincerely amazing, Anon!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
thank you!

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 09:11 am (UTC)(link)
thanks, anon!

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(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
phaiinein: unlabelled icons are my own! (phainein)

[personal profile] phaiinein 2023-02-20 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
plurk or discord is fine! i'm pretty active on both, so whichever is more convenient for getting everyone together and keeping up with stuff works for me

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Idk, I've seen some people say stuff like, "oh you just don't have chemistry with them, it's not that they're bad" when they are, in fact, objectively bad.

But I acknowledged it's not really a dissenting opinion, only kind of.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Anons - rp challenge! Go to Bakerstreet and tag someone you don’t know but who caught your eye. Actual tag, none of this “wanna do something” and no replying back stuff.

Return here and link proof.

Next Monday I will RNG on all who completed the challenge and gift one person with 6 months paid time. Hopefully there will be an added bonus of some of you having unexpectedly fun threads.

(Anonymous) 2023-02-20 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
6 months is amazing! do you promise, anon?