rpanons | if ur breath were baited, it would smell fishy

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But the problem here is that you AREN'T warning anyone. I think a lot of people are missing the point and getting stuck on the nitty gritty of this being about AC when the actual issue here is that players in your game are toeing the lines of one of your rules and you need to consider whether the rule is unclear enough that they're doing this without realizing or if they don't even understand that it's an actual hard rule instead of a broadly stated expectation because you don't seem to be enforcing it.

If all these problems are being caused then you need to actually put your foot down and start having these discussions with your players instead of on rpanons.

i get that we need to do that. i do actually take the cowardice part of the feedback to heart. i mentioned what's been holding us off, or at the very least me: the environment to enforce this kind of rule doesn't seem supportive, even if the rule is there. that matters. again, the nightfell backlash was recent, in november or december. this thread alone is filled with anons chiming in how it's not okay to implement a rule like this because it's too subjective, and you should instead raise activity. even worse is this subtext i see in some of the comments whereby automatically the problem must be with the mods or the plotting or the game, it surely cannot be an issue of some people, as you say, toeing the line on a rule.

this is where i disagree with you, however: you are articulating it, and i don't think you are doing it maliciously, as a problem of the mods not warning anyone. to be clear, the problem is the people who do this kind of thing. our lack of response does not fix the problem, absolutely and 100%, and maybe it increases the risk of this problem recuring. but it does not create the bad habit of the players who consistently only make minimum activity, and putting burden on mods in this way isn't really great. i'm sure a lot of anons will say i'm oversensitive and it's only semantics, until you realize it's happening all over this thread and i have 'nerve' for daring to vent anonymously about it.

This IS a problem of the mods not warning anyone, though.

Please understand that I'm speaking to you right now as a mod who has dealt with this exact same issue: no, you can't prevent this bad habit from forming or keep players from lapsing into it but if you have a rule in place specifically addressing this kind of behaviour and you don't enforce it? That IS on you. Nothing gets resolved unless you actually take steps to resolve it.

i'm just trying to underline that there's a difference between not immediately applying negative consequences to a problem and creating the problem.

as for the rest, i hear you and this thread has given me something to think about. maybe i need to step back from modding, because i feel stuck between what i'd like to do (see start of thread) and what i feel i can do, and it's not a positive feeling, so either find a proactive solution or pull out.

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you are assuming they are one of the games that gets brought up here. there are many, many games that aren't talked about here, but people still come here to chat about RP in general. backlash to mods making decisions also happens without ever reaching anon comms.

we should let people use this as a forum to anonymously vent and troubleshoot without going "it's your feelings that are the issue, git gud" as if mods are the genesis of every problem a game might have.

ayrt

god forbid anyone disagree with dogpiling this mod but ok

if ur breath were baited, it would smell fishy

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