socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2020-05-12 07:47 pm

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Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-04 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
i just want to thank the mods for allowing the info to stay up when people were insisting it was going to be deleted outright and that we're not allowed to talk about this kind of thing on rpa.

turns out we are, it's just the rpa mods are actually interested in keeping discussions from devolving into wankfests. works for me.

i don't play in this game, but i know if it came out the mods of the game i do play in were behaving like this, i would hope my fellow players would hold them accountable for it. i'm not going to drag anyone who doesn't, but i really strongly recommend y'all actually bring this up to them as a group, because it seems unlikely this is the only person they've done this with.

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-04 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
fucking yikes

I would have tagged you, sans player :c

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-04 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not the only player. Posted DEETs are a great example of how they act including keeping it private so that people don't know that they're doing it.
Not sure how many they've bullied but I know of a few. I had no idea about the one that was posted and I'm sure there's more that I don't know about. Ones I know have moved on and don't want to get dragged into wank.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-04 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah, like.

this is does not feel like a one time incident.

lifeaftr players i saw y'all in a plurk just the other day bragging about how drama-free your game is and how anyone with a problem with it must be a wanker themselves. this information combined with that attitude is a horrible look and i am very sure most of y'all don't want it associated with you.

talk to your mods.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-04 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't see the plurk but in fairness to them I think most of the player-base probably had no idea. Some definitely did. Others were probably completely clueless that anything like this was happening and did think the game was drama free. I feel bad for the ones who didn't know suddenly finding out something like this. Probably really jarring.
rpanonyoda: (~ harth)

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[personal profile] rpanonyoda 2020-06-04 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna ask you all to please don't turn the LA toplevel into a wankfest of its playerbase, either.

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-05 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
isn't the game ending soon? they'll probably feel like there's no point now. personally i'd grit my teeth and hold on until the ride is over, then blacklist tf out of the mods

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-05 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
endgames almost always fizzle anyways, and no endgame is worth not holding these mods to the fire.

fuck'em. everyone should dump them.

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-05 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
a mass exodus of people stating specifically that they're dropping because of mod behavior would be amazing, and probably drive the point home to the mods better than anything else would

it might force their hand in actually acknowledging they acted like shit

Re: LIFEAFTR

(Anonymous) 2020-06-05 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
exactly.

even if they stamp their feet and act like they're the victims, it will still send a message about who they really are to people who deserve to know.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
this is not going to happen because they have been amazing and thoughtful mods to their actual playerbase. they've handled issues privately, among the people that were involved, because... that's the adult, responsible thing to do.

they (or in this case, zero) have acknowledged that they handled this particular instance badly and if that player ever chooses to be in contact with them they would offer a sincere apology. what are the people who are circulating this now, with socks and on anon, actually trying to achieve here?

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
they only admitted that after caps were released and people confronted them, so it seems like something was achieved after all. as for the plurk going around right now, i'd say awareness and transparency are the motives. even the sock anons aren't really calling for a witch hunt, they're just stating the facts and making people aware, especially since there's a new game in the works.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
well yes, because a mod team talking publicly about this private interaction that they had would be pretty unprofessional??? if the player had wanted a public conversation about how that was handled, they could have asked the mods to make it public. their response in this instance was definitely badly handled, and i'm not against having someone impartial look at interactions like that if the parties need reassurance or criticism...

but the way in which this was done in order to assure that these mods can never be allowed to run or participate in a game again without harassment really stinks to high heavens.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
it's unprofessional to talk about in depth of, say, a warranted ban where a player comes to a modteam about harassment and speaks to them about that harassment privately. couching this incident, which was pushing a player out of their game under the pretense of concern as professionalism is disingenuous

maybe they shouldn't be blacklisted from games or playing, but people have the right to know about this if one of the people involved in this is planning to mod another game

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
this incident was not handled professionally because the mods were too personally affected, i agree. perhaps it would have been more professional to say "we're concerned we can't treat you impartially because of your associations so we ask that you don't app", though someone would have wanked on that too i'm sure. there was no graceful way out of this particular, incredibly specific situation. making this conversation public would still have been unprofessional on top of all that.

i understand that people would like to know who their mods are, but this incident that happened under very specific circumstances involving their abuser (granted, by association, and this is a mess) is being treated as though it's a comprehensive view of how these mods treat their playerbase. if a random player wants to know how these mods run a game, they could ask people who were in LA.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
it does not at all sound like this as an isolated situation, according to what's being said.

there's also a fair amount of people saying the "abuser" in question didn't abuse them at all, and instead was labeled as such simply because they were critical of their behavior.

now you can either choose to believe all that or not, i don't have any evidence for you, but there even if none of that's true, the answer to "should we have done this?" should always be "no". it does not matter what was going in in their heads. it shouldn't have happened. if they can't say that, then that's a problem.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
the person that the mod team were shook over wasn't an abuser, they accused Zero and co OF abuse

quit trying to change the narrative

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
i think it's important to remember that the player was brand new to DWRP when considering what they "could've done". also, we don't know who finally leaked the caps, and it could very well actually be them or a confidant.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
it was likely the player due to them posting a plurk that had all the mod discussion caps in it and they were asking their plurklist if it was a 'is this just me?' scenario. they leaked the mod caps first, but it's debatable as to who leaked this instance.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the player gave the deets to someone else. They said they didn't know this was going on in the deets replurk.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
zero said they handled the situation badly but couldn't answer when asked what they would have done differently.

if they still can't say "i wouldn't have done anything" at this point, then the problem still exists. it deserves to be talked about.

(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Circulating it against the wishes of the actual injured party, no less.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-07 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
i wouldn't say against their wishes, but rather without consideration for. they didn't know what their wishes were.

and what's more, they've obviously reached out by now, and the person is okay with it staying up, just with some understandable caveats.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2020-06-08 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
They never reached out, the player involved stumbled across the callout plurk and was completely blindsided.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2020-06-08 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
lifebfr
i want to apologize publicly as i have privately for sharing these caps without permission. i realize i acted carelessly and i am very sorry for that. they are still staying up now with permission. thank you for very much for your understanding,


so, again, since you can't read, "they've obviously reached out by now"