rpanons | Stick a fork in it

Stick a fork in it

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i hate ancestors who app into games and immediately assume parental roles over their descendants

troll society doesn't work like that hth

PLUS FUCKING ONE.

i just gawk at dualscars who immediately begin mentoring and acting fatherly towards eridans and psiioniics that act like a dad towards sollux and etc etc

it makes no fucking sense at all, not even remotely, and i think anyone who plays an ancestor as protective of/parental towards their descendent (or, hell, any of the younger trolls) really does not get how troll societal roles and norms work at all.

i admit i like the ones that are disappointed as fuck, though

dualscar disgusted with how much of a shitheel eridan is? yes

dualscar then mentoring him on how to be a rad ladykiller like him (lol.......)? fuck off and die in a car fire

when i played dualscar he basically despised eridan, thought he was a little pissfuck and total tool, and would have happily put a bullet between his eyes at the first opportunity

i want to play dualscar and have him be like this too

you're my hero anon

go forth, anon. dwrp desperately needs more good dualscars.

like hell they do. people need to stop writing up these stupid as fuck ocs.

i don't mind if someone's interpretation of an ancestor is akin to an OC as long as it's written well and makes sense

sadly, many ancestor players fail to achieve either of the two

i don't mind the well written ones in memes and stuff like that, but in actual games? it's a nightmare for everyone involved.

I can kind of understand something like that for, say, Signless or the Summoner or maybe the Disciple, too (with some development, anyway), but in general? People need to stop.

Signless and Disciple are maybes, but considering we know nothing about Summoner as a person, I'd tread cautiously. He can't be THAT Tavros-like if he led a revolution and somehow caused Mindfang's death.

I kind of almost see him like...well, Rufio! Like, I think an interpretation similar to that could make him become more of a really cool big brother figure, I guess, but yeah, it's cautious treading with all of them.

(Also, how did I forget The Dolorosa when I was making my point originally?)

oh god are you me anon? I can't stand people who do this with any Ancestor that isn't Dolorosa, who is only portrayed as a mother figure because she went against the culture and raised Signless. Ancestors are supposed to be figures of legend, not fucking moms and dads jfc

I agree in principle, but all this ONLY the Dolorosa would do that! stuff is oversimplifying it. I'd find it really easy to believe from the Signless or the Disciple at least, a little more dubious on Psiioniic but who knows. There's no reason to say for sure that the people who were close to the Dolorosa wouldn't try the same thing she did if they saw a reason to do so (like meeting their own Ancestor). ESPECIALLY Signless. Frankly I'd side-eye the hell out of any Sufferer whose CR with Karkat wasn't kind of curious and really interested in teaching him things.

I kind of agree but kind of don't! Of course adult trolls wouldn't be parental towards younger ones under most circumstances, and if anything most of them would probably be actively hostile, but the whole ancestor/descendant thing is this big tradition/legend deal, especially for highbloods, and I can definitely see characters like Mindfang and Dualscar being interested in how their spawn turned out and attempting to steer them in the 'right' direction. Like, I doubt they'd be caring about it, but I don't think it's totally improbable for them to be interested.

I think it's reasonable to have any of the Signless's group take more of a caring approach, some kind of "cool big brother" deal like someone mentioned upthread could easily make sense for the Summoner ... I think with all the others honestly it just depends how you're playing them, like, it might not be "parental" per se but I think that some sort of interest makes sense for most of them – even protectiveness, perhaps? Because although trolls aren't encouraged to behave like that towards children in wider troll society, being presented with what you believe to be your direct genetic progeny is kind of a unique situation? Like, not because their society enshrines any kind of parental roles, because obviously no, but because this is their legacy, this is the troll who is supposed to be taking up their sign, there's gonna be some mentoring going on even if it is kind of terrible.

The only ancestor I'd completely rule it out for is the Condesce, for obvious reasons.

I agree that with some trolls it makes a lot less sense (IE the Dualscars of the universe) but on the other hand...younger trolls who have the priviledge to know about their ancestors (Vriska in canon) look up to them as mentor figures. I fail to see how having the kinder hearted Ancestors looking to their Descendants as something of value is unreasonable. If only because they want them to turn out "right."

And in terms of more ruthless ancestors, I could easily see them taking on a vaguely mentoring ish position in the average jamjar, if only for the purpose of using the respect they'd have from their descendant as a means to use them as a pawn.

I think saying that THIS IS COMPLETELY UNREASONABLE or MOMMY DADDY TIME ALL AROUND is seriously oversimplifying the issue.

Also, once again WHY DO YOU GUYS HATE FUN SO MUCH??

No one hates fun. People just don't want to see something that goes against what we have been told in the story. A perfectly reasonable thing to want. In the story, trolls don't have mother or father figures because their parents are animals that aren't even capable of regular speech (until they were prototyped at least). Vriska also says that descendants look up to their ancestors as legends and try to follow in their footsteps normally. The concept of parents, who are the same species and act like a human mother and father typically would, does not exist in their culture.

No one is talking about whether or not an Ancestor can take them on in a mentor/student relationship, the topic is people who literally have Ancestors act like parents to the younger trolls. That is what's wrong, as defined by canon. Personally, I can see something like what you described. But someone acting as a mentor figure =/= someone acting like your parent.

Not being familiar with a concept also =/= not wanting it, for the record.

Just because trolls don't normally have a human concept of parents doesn't mean it's impossible for them to enjoy such a relationship. And on the subject of Ancestors, the original revolutionaries are some of the specific trolls that WOULD understand that concept. (Because you know. Signless and Dolorosa.)

But yeah I mean obviously that's not something that should just happen out of nowhere. But people being shitty at executing a concept isn't the same as the concept being bad.

Saying that these ideas are objectively wrong is also kind of unfair.

we only hate fun when it's based in blatantly stupid headcanon that goes against everything said multiple times in the actual canon

like purring karkat and your ancestor mommy/daddy shenanigans

hth

what has actually been said to specifically contradict purring karkat, out of curiousity?

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