rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2016-06-13 06:38 pm

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Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
if they said they were after smut (and from the sound of it made it pretty clear it was going to be consensual), no they're not in the wrong for some fucking walnut assuming that meant a rape scenario was a-okay without asking first.

people who want to play this shit need to be asking others first. period.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
they said flat-out they don't have a permissions post and they never said no noncon-dubcon

you can feel however you want to feel about noncon/dubcon, but if you don't make your feelings known (on your actual journal, not on anon spaces) no one is going to know

so yeah, it's her fault too. you having a hardon for dubcon/noncon players doesn't change that both players in this made the same mistake

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
what part of "someone who wants to play rape needs to ask first" because it's fucking rape do you not understand?

it doesn't matter if OP had a permission post or kink list or whatever. hell, it wouldn't even matter if they hadn't already established there was going to be mutual attraction, as they've said multiple times in this thread, the onus is still on you to ask first because it's fucking rape you artist.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
what part of "that's not the point being debated here" don't you understand?

something's not clicking in your skull. i haven't said once that op's partner is right. that's purely assumption on your part (ironically).

what i'm saying is that they need to be upfront too. dwrp is always a two-way street, even in instances like this. if you, me or anyone else doesn't make our desires clear, then we don't have any room to complain when other people come along wanting to play something we haven't yet said no to (or rather we can complain, but it doesn't amount to more than a hill of beans)

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
they said flat-out they don't have a permissions post and they never said no noncon-dubcon

they never said yes either. that's pretty fucking important to playing any kink. not saying "no" does not automatically equal a "yes".

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't. And if their partner had sprung rape on them, I'd be right in the crowd with you tarring and feathering them

but they haven't. this isn't kayvin with his predatory lesbians or selwyn dropping trou and flat-out begging for rapecock. this is, until we get proof to the contrary, two rpers misfiring on each other. maybe op's partner wants rape. maybe they don't. maybe they don't even want smut

the point is, if both players were communicating none of this would be a problem. both, not just op and not just mystery partnernon.

dddda

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
op shouldn't have to be the first one to say "by the way, I don't want to play noncon/dubcon". given the nature of the kink, the responsibility to ask is on OP's partner, not them. you don't just assume someone is okay with any kink until they say otherwise. and no, consensual sex does not count as a kink that needs to be asked about first. they are two completely different worlds and your attempts to conflate them come of as disingenuous, and dare I assume, projecting.

basically, you need to pick a position, either noncon/dubcon is a default or it's not, you can't play this devil's advocate "both sides are wrong" nonsense with a topic like this.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
okay i see what's going on. you're talking about this very specific situation op brought. in which case, yes, it is conjecture on our part to assume that their partner is pushing for noncon/dubcon without communicating as such beforehand. i was reading this portion of the discussion on more general terms, as in when it actually is being forced on someone, and not just as one of a variety of potential reasons for the way in which op's partner is playing.

i do agree that op should be communicating with their partner instead of us. all we can do is speculate. actually, everyone should fucking communicate. can we get that on a t-shirt? "have you communicated with your rp partner today?"

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
yeah. this very specific situation is all i'm talking about. idk where people pulled the "oh you're saying it's okay for thirsty rape players to spring their thirsty rape on people huh?!?!" from

it's funny how this whole conversation went astray for the exact same reason op came to us. maybe i wasn't clear enough laying it out. if so, i sincerely apologize to anyone i offended.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
tbf i've been following mostly on flatview, so from that angle when a discussion like this has so many subthreads going on all at once, perspective can get muddied sometimes.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
i guess by your logic, any char can suddenly just start chewing on another character and bite parts of them off, ala ghosty's cannibal fetish. because they didn't say no. or maybe take a giant dump in their mouth? gotta say no, amirite?

if you actually bothered to read the thread, you'd see that op's partner mentioned their character jumping op's char, which sounds pretty fucking consensual/mutual interest to me. in no way can you read that as 'my char secretly wants you to rape theirs'.

fucking read, you goddamn troglodyte, and stop trying to be the devil's advocate on what communication needs to take place. common sense says if you want something out of the ordinary (ordinary being consensual vanilla sex), you be the one to ask for it. unless you're playing in a 'fuck me in the ass when i'm not looking' meme, no one's going to assume that rape is something they need to say no to. goddammit.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
i'm going to take a giant dump in your mouth because you didn't say no and your outrageous buttfury doesn't dignify any other response

maybe try reading the whole thread before blowing your stack next time

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
i did. multiple times. and you're still a shitty asshole. no one should ever have to automatically opt out of something. if discussion is happening and the party interested in dubcon/noncon doesn't say 'i'd like to play dubcon/noncon', then there's no reason why op would have to ask about it or put up a no-ducon/noncon disclaimer. you're talking about communication but you seem to have selective reading skills. go to bed.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
i hope a night's sleep helped you work through your infantile rage at the suggestion that you communicate with your rp partners

you did get a fan, so at least it wasn't a total loss?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
i love this post so much, lmao. spot on, and troglodyte's my new fav insult.

+1

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
this just shows why the anon is into rape kink. apparently they think that a lack of no means yes.

+1

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
DA but I was totally thinking this too.

+1

(Anonymous) 2016-06-16 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
nailed it