rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2016-05-03 11:35 am

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Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm not ignoring the evidence. you're just not actually giving any that's comparable. 'oh, hi, let me compare this meme comm to a new game.' that's not a proper comparison. that's like equating memebells from lj with memebells from dwrp, which never got off the ground and was taken over by bs' activity. if you want comparisons, compare actual things that are like the other.

memebells on lj: 1,278,437 over 1,543 entries. (open from 2011 until last update of 2015)
bakerstreet on dw: 6,222,048 over 12,993 entries. (open from 2011 to now)

that's how you compare something. even back in lj's heyday, memes weren't as much of a thing as they were when the move came to dw. there was a huge period of lots and lots of meme play, but for the most part, we're about at the level lj was around the porting time.

you can also take your condescending attitude and shove it. i've given YOU evidence that you've chosen to ignore because 'whatever, it doesn't count'. it does. you just don't want it to because your way supports your argument of everything dying. (btw, comparing me using facts to someone being religious just proves that you are incredibly inept and incapable of dealing with fact, which is ironic considering you're calling me ignorant of actual numbers).

i'm not even arguing that eudio is sol and crack candy for players. just like tlfn is. but the fact that those two things can achieve numbers that they do is proof that the numbers are there, you petrified troll zit. if something stupid and cracky can bring in numbers, where are the numbers coming from? oh, right, that imaginary nothingness you don't believe in.

if you want to have something with meat to it, get off your motherfucking ass and fucking make it. stop waiting for someone else to do it while you sit there on your hands and continue to wait until the game crashes and burns because 'i was waiting to see if it would do well'. no one has to wait for crack candy to do well. it's crack candy. just fucking join, ffs. do stuff instead of crying about how much time and effort is put into apps and wah wah my wasted time.

Re: steam keys

[personal profile] madgod 2016-05-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
wah, could I get RE4, RE6, and/or remember me?

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
... what?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
chuck tingle is the voice of our generation

Re: ITT: CASTMATES YOU WOULD KILL FOR

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
one of the many love interests in the quasi-harem of the main character in a canon so embarrassingly dumb that i don't even want to name it. i just really like their dynamic, even though it's so stupid.

Re: ITT: CASTMATES YOU WOULD KILL FOR

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
i want a cast to form from a new canon i'm digging at a game that doesn't suck

so i can either join them or stalk them

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Looking for genuine advice:

What do you do when someone really wants to tag with you but their tags are legit the worst thing you've ever read? I'm talking changing formats/tenses halfway through tags bad. Barely comprehensible bad.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
i hate using tumblr terms but this is an excellent example of what they traditionally call moving the goalposts. by the very definition of ljrp as a dead platform and all its games as dead games, it is literally impossible to provide you the exact comparison you seem to be seeking (compare this new game to that new game). memebells i picked because it had roughly the same lifespan as eudio's had so far and roughly the same expectations from its userbase. would you be convinced if i gave you the numbers for an actual game comm like damned (beats eudio)? no, you'd say that's because damned was open longer (see you later goalposts!) what about gargleblasted (beats eudio tremendously)? open longer, "that's not comparable because it's ecats!", etc. (nice to meet you goalposts!) you'll always find an escape hatch because you've chosen your belief

it's funny how you complained about apples and oranges comparisons only to make a disingenous comparison in your very next post; if that was a deliberate thing, well done to you i guess. i mean, i hope you understand how disingenous it is to compare memebells (which only had a year of life due to the exodus in 2012) to bakerstreet which has had six full years of life, but hell, maybe you don't. maybe you look at those numbers and see actual evidence for your "our numbers are still the same!" belief. that's some impressive reality twisting if you too

memes weren't a thing back in lj, you're right. that's why i didn't factor memebells into my intial post taking a look at the big rp comms on lj (all drs). that's also why i chose it to compare to eudio, because memes on lj in memebells' day were a lot like sol is to dwrp in general today, not quite a niche interest but definitely not the most popular thing around either. sol's always had its audience but that audience has also never been the majority and eudio's impressive numbers don't make it the majority now. they just make it the largest fish in a small pond

i've based my conclusion around facts. if you have any facts i've ignored, i'd love to hear them. i notice you didn't actually list that "evidence that (I've) chosen to ignore". What evidence? Stuff like the bakersttreet vs memebells comparison where you patently twist reality around to reach the conclusion you want to reach? sorry, but that's not convincing. if you have better evidence, of course, i'm open to revising that opinion.

you keep talking about eudio like its numbers are comparable to the lj days. i've given you proof they're not, so i don't really know what else can be said in this corner of our debate. maybe if bakerstreet picks its numbers back up i'll be convinced, and maybe if dw rp goes the way of lj rp you'll be convinced. short of such irrefutable reality, i sadly think we're just going in circles here

"make it", you say. tell me, would you say that to the dragoncalled people despairing over their game that sunk before it even got off the ground rn? or to the mods of sunset resort, or rotundus, or any of the other failed games there've been over the years? i'm sorry, but fixing dwrp's problems is not as simple as "make it and they'll come". but clearly you feel it is, so why not just keep doing what you're doing? i mean, us poor naysayers are just despairing over nothing right? three years from now dwrp will be as populous as it is today, right?

Re: ITT: CASTMATES YOU WOULD KILL FOR

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
any

my canon is really obscure in dwrp, and in all my years here i've only ever found 2 other rpers who play from it, but neither of them are active

being a lcw is fun and all, but sometimes i just want in on that sweet castmate action

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
idiot

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
dude, i'm not moving the goalposts. you are. you can't compare for shit. 'oh, we don't have anything like the old lj games back when rp was popular' ... 'don't compare things to lj'.

whatever thing you've convinced yourself you're arguing, you're not. you talk about the numbers not being there and i've proved they are. memebells still had people playing on it despite a lot of people moving to dwrp. what you call an 'exodus' was really a split for a lot of people. some played in both spots. some only played in one. there were a lot of games that refused to move to dwrp for quite a while and they still played on lj.

eudio did and does well. the numbers are there. if the dragoncalled mod hadn't gone mia, that game likely would have done not too bad going by the reserves for the first month. your inability to see that there are a lot of people on this site just waiting to flock to a new game is your problem, not mine. why do you think cdc/ryslig/eachdraidh got called 'the big three'. because they all three offered different types of gameplay and opened up with huge numbers. they were monoliths on the site, until they couldn't keep up with the stress of being large games because the makers had thought they'd be opening small games and hadn't prepared for the flood.

because that's the advice given to all new games, you jackass. 'either cap the game or prepare for a flood'. why? because so many people want something new and fun to play with. if you have a tdm that does well and a concept that catches people's attention, you can easily have another mega-game in the making. eudio hitting 500 members proves that. the big three hitting high numbers proves it (and hey, they weren't sol, so shove that argument too). a lot of people are just fucking around doing nothing because there's nothing to do. if someone gave them something worth getting worked up about, having another/more big games is easily a possibility.

sorry that dwrp isn't as dead as you want it to be, i guess.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
and, ftr, you're the one that brought lj comparisons into it, even memebells. you can't compare a meme comm to a game comm from different sites, then cry foul when someone actually does a correct comparison.

you are such a baby over this.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
sorry that dwrp isn't as dead as you want it to be, i guess.

stop this passive-aggressive shit pls

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
tell them "i don't think our styles really mesh/i know you want to tag with me, but i'm not really having fun" with an appropriate number of sad emotes

its blunt enough to get through that you don't want to play with them without being mean

you can also try constructive criticism-- "i find it hard to reply to you because your tags are hard for me to process"-- but that depends on how invested you are in helping them
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[personal profile] fatherlesskind 2016-05-23 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
I'm interested in playing out some kind of Warden on the run situation with Alistair set during Inquisition. Possibly slightly AU with sneaking around and hiding out while investigating what the rest of the order is up to. I can work with pretty much anyone else on this, canon-mates (including protags), cross-canon or OCs are all good and I'm happy to AU to make things work. Also open to gen or shipping options.

Basically I want sneaky adventures on the run either as a one-off thing or something on-going.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
i'm feeling ten. they started it. they're bitching that the comm is dying and 'we don't have the numbers' when the proof is right there. they just don't like the type of proof it is because having fun isn't allowed.

Your RP has leveled up!

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
What was the event that caused it to happen? Did you get good crit, play out that OTP you always wanted to play out, or was it something else?

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
"you can't compare for shit" says the person who compares an also-ran meme comm with a 1 year lifespan to dwrp's most active hub with 5 years under its belt. that's rich.

oh, i know i'm not arguing now. the argument's already been presented and you refuse to face it and that's your prerogative. your numbers were proven inferior to a comm of equal lifespan and you couldn't get the goalposts down the road fast enough to avoid the inescapable conclusion. also, if you think i'm the only person who's called the dwrp migration an 'exodus' i've got some fertile games i'd like to talk to you about joining. yes, a number of people didn't leave right away, mari the former ljdm queen and current conspiracy queen is proof of that. but if you didn't notice the immediate decline in posts... well, ignoring evidence that contradicts your fantasy has been your shtick here

eudio is the game equivalent of tfln. we've already established this. that doesn't make it proof that dwrp is healthy, or in any way as active as ljrp was back in its glory days. as much as i'm sure you love sol and are perfectly satisfied by sol, there is also (and i need you to stay with me on this one) a sizable contigent for whom it is not satisfying. the point i made about memebells and eudio seems to have been lost on you, so i'll say it more clearly for your benefit: eudio is not for everyone, nor is it even for the majority. it is for sol lovers, a not-insignificant percentage of dwrp's population but by no means the majority (or hell, it might be the majority NOW, but it wasn't once, nor should it be). as for your point about cdc/ryslig/each, they all collapsed or are in the process of collapsing due to being wankpits. their size alone isn't an excuse, none of them is or was larger than the supergiant games of yesteryear even at their peak

after all these words i think we've pretty much come full circle. you're a game person who insulates yourself from dwrp's shrinkage by sticking to games. and if that's what makes you happy, then more power to you. but your ranting and raving about eudio being the best thing since unicorn giggles doesn't make it any more appealing to anyone not interested in the mindless sol rp it offers, nor is it comfort to the not-insignificant portion of dwrp who don't do games at all and stick (or stuck, since so many of them have left) to memes (and drs before them). bakerstreet can keep shrinking and keep shrinking, but hey, as long as you've got your coffeeshop au in eudio dwrp is still thriving, right?

i've never debated a creationist before but i imagine it must feel something like this.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
sorry not everyone loves your mindless coffeeshop aus, i guess

Re: Your RP has leveled up!

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I've spent the last several days on the character creation screen, actually.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
> makes a completely disingenuous comparison and calls it "correct"

keep fucking that chicken michelle duggar

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
whatever. keep bringing god and religion into an argument about facts. keep crying that your facts aren't correct and it's not 'fair' to compare actuality to actuality instead of your hyperbolic bullshit.

you win. i'm clearly talking to someone whose head is so far up their ass, they're tonguing their own tonsils. you want to think dwrp is dying. go ahead. i don't care. but when a game comes along that proves you wrong, i'll just find it amusing while you sit there and froth about god being not real and this doesn't prove anything because it's not the same.

whatever. whaaaaaaaaatever, you cockgobbling thundercunt. i don't play in coffeeshop aus or sol games, but clearly that's the only option you can wrap your tiny little two-celled brain around, because it's not like anyone waiting for or trying to make something new could possibly be arguing with you, could they, you crusty cum-glazed ass donut. no, this is all about religion, when it's not, and how right you are while we all bob along in a sea of wrong. two plus green equals potato, right? right.

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
i'm not the one that compared memebells to eudio, and the wrong comm at first, btw, and then tried to call it proof of things dying. you can't claim memebells has more going on for it as opposed to a game, then cry foul when it's compared to... a meme comm. like wtf. do you math?

Re: steam keys

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
> "PMs would be great"

You're the type who tosses up blank top levels in memes that require people to write their own starters, aren't you

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
i mean... changing tenses isn't that bad to me

is that just a random example or is that the only problem you're having with them?