i hate using tumblr terms but this is an excellent example of what they traditionally call moving the goalposts. by the very definition of ljrp as a dead platform and all its games as dead games, it is literally impossible to provide you the exact comparison you seem to be seeking (compare this new game to that new game). memebells i picked because it had roughly the same lifespan as eudio's had so far and roughly the same expectations from its userbase. would you be convinced if i gave you the numbers for an actual game comm like damned (beats eudio)? no, you'd say that's because damned was open longer (see you later goalposts!) what about gargleblasted (beats eudio tremendously)? open longer, "that's not comparable because it's ecats!", etc. (nice to meet you goalposts!) you'll always find an escape hatch because you've chosen your belief
it's funny how you complained about apples and oranges comparisons only to make a disingenous comparison in your very next post; if that was a deliberate thing, well done to you i guess. i mean, i hope you understand how disingenous it is to compare memebells (which only had a year of life due to the exodus in 2012) to bakerstreet which has had six full years of life, but hell, maybe you don't. maybe you look at those numbers and see actual evidence for your "our numbers are still the same!" belief. that's some impressive reality twisting if you too
memes weren't a thing back in lj, you're right. that's why i didn't factor memebells into my intial post taking a look at the big rp comms on lj (all drs). that's also why i chose it to compare to eudio, because memes on lj in memebells' day were a lot like sol is to dwrp in general today, not quite a niche interest but definitely not the most popular thing around either. sol's always had its audience but that audience has also never been the majority and eudio's impressive numbers don't make it the majority now. they just make it the largest fish in a small pond
i've based my conclusion around facts. if you have any facts i've ignored, i'd love to hear them. i notice you didn't actually list that "evidence that (I've) chosen to ignore". What evidence? Stuff like the bakersttreet vs memebells comparison where you patently twist reality around to reach the conclusion you want to reach? sorry, but that's not convincing. if you have better evidence, of course, i'm open to revising that opinion.
you keep talking about eudio like its numbers are comparable to the lj days. i've given you proof they're not, so i don't really know what else can be said in this corner of our debate. maybe if bakerstreet picks its numbers back up i'll be convinced, and maybe if dw rp goes the way of lj rp you'll be convinced. short of such irrefutable reality, i sadly think we're just going in circles here
"make it", you say. tell me, would you say that to the dragoncalled people despairing over their game that sunk before it even got off the ground rn? or to the mods of sunset resort, or rotundus, or any of the other failed games there've been over the years? i'm sorry, but fixing dwrp's problems is not as simple as "make it and they'll come". but clearly you feel it is, so why not just keep doing what you're doing? i mean, us poor naysayers are just despairing over nothing right? three years from now dwrp will be as populous as it is today, right?
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it's funny how you complained about apples and oranges comparisons only to make a disingenous comparison in your very next post; if that was a deliberate thing, well done to you i guess. i mean, i hope you understand how disingenous it is to compare memebells (which only had a year of life due to the exodus in 2012) to bakerstreet which has had six full years of life, but hell, maybe you don't. maybe you look at those numbers and see actual evidence for your "our numbers are still the same!" belief. that's some impressive reality twisting if you too
memes weren't a thing back in lj, you're right. that's why i didn't factor memebells into my intial post taking a look at the big rp comms on lj (all drs). that's also why i chose it to compare to eudio, because memes on lj in memebells' day were a lot like sol is to dwrp in general today, not quite a niche interest but definitely not the most popular thing around either. sol's always had its audience but that audience has also never been the majority and eudio's impressive numbers don't make it the majority now. they just make it the largest fish in a small pond
i've based my conclusion around facts. if you have any facts i've ignored, i'd love to hear them. i notice you didn't actually list that "evidence that (I've) chosen to ignore". What evidence? Stuff like the bakersttreet vs memebells comparison where you patently twist reality around to reach the conclusion you want to reach? sorry, but that's not convincing. if you have better evidence, of course, i'm open to revising that opinion.
you keep talking about eudio like its numbers are comparable to the lj days. i've given you proof they're not, so i don't really know what else can be said in this corner of our debate. maybe if bakerstreet picks its numbers back up i'll be convinced, and maybe if dw rp goes the way of lj rp you'll be convinced. short of such irrefutable reality, i sadly think we're just going in circles here
"make it", you say. tell me, would you say that to the dragoncalled people despairing over their game that sunk before it even got off the ground rn? or to the mods of sunset resort, or rotundus, or any of the other failed games there've been over the years? i'm sorry, but fixing dwrp's problems is not as simple as "make it and they'll come". but clearly you feel it is, so why not just keep doing what you're doing? i mean, us poor naysayers are just despairing over nothing right? three years from now dwrp will be as populous as it is today, right?