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Trapped in the city of one loo

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not allowing OCs seems kind of arbitrary. otherwise the game looks interesting.

not every game that opens has to allow ocs. i don't know why people continue to get pressed about this when there are plenty of oc friendly games around.

because oc players are entitled tittybabies who think all of dwrp should revolve around them

so can we have games that ban canon characters and only allow ocs?

oh man, imagine the tittyfits.

anon there are tons of OC-only RP venues out there. in fact, fandom RP is a minority. so sure you could make an OC-only game, it's nothing controversial.

tbh, i think most au games should be oc only, but that's a topic for another day. i don't see anything wrong with someone opening a game that's just for ocs. they used to have them on lj back when most games didn't allow for ocs. so have a game or two here that's oc only. if there's only one-two games that are niched for specific genres/fandoms, getting upset about it is just dumb when there's so many other games out there. people are way too entitled about shit lately. 'wah, i like this premise but ew smut/wah i like this premise but ew ocs/wah, i like this premise but why no ocs/wah too much this, too much that wah wah me'

What would be the point of an OC-only AU game? Then you'd all just be crafting OCs for the specific setting and...it'd be a regular OC-only game, not an AU game. I don't mind OCs in AU games or anything, but for me the appeal of an AU game is taking an existing character and reworking them.

i think it's preference more than anything. i'm not a fan of au games because i personally don't feel like a lot of my characters would carry over well and still be themselves if they didn't have their life experiences, in which case they'd basically be an oc with the name/face of my canon char. but lots of people like aus and i'm not going to be that asshole that says they shouldn't exist. i just don't play in them and don't enjoy playing against au versions of canon chars so i avoid places where that's an issue.

it sounds like au games just aren't your thing, then, instead of oc-only au games being better

personally i love translating life experiences/personality/etc into an au, but i get that not everyone does

i totally agree with you and i didn't so much say that they're 'better' as much as that's what i'd prefer, but, yeah. and in terms of new experiences, again, for me it comes down to character types. there are certain canons/genres where taking them out of that element and giving them more mundane and banal experiences takes them from being a recognizable version of altered char a and being an oc that has no semblance to char a and is now char x.

example; any of the guardians from rise of the guardians. tooth and easter bunny and jack and santa... great characters and fun to play, but humanizing them and making them high school students/teachers in a mundane world takes away from the characters if they're not a giant bunny or a feathery tooth guardian or a flying ice boy who died a long time ago. there's a base you can work with, yeah, but to fit them into certain (and i say certain and not all) aus would detract from them as a character and turn jack into an emo teen prankster and bunny into some kind of twitchy phys ed teacher. sure, they'd be fun to play, but they're not them, you know?

and for some people, that's exactly what they want to play and that's fine and i don't fault them that. but i generally pick up x char because i want to play x char in y scenario, not x if x was a unicorn.

wouldnt that just be an oc game though, rather than an au game that's oc only

im not saying theres anything wrong with oc-only games, btw, just that oc-only and au seems mutually exclusive?

i guess it would be. i had another discussion somewhere about au chars basically being ocs and i think that's sort of made me feel like au games should just be for ocs which would, yeah, make it an oc game. i guess it's just perspective since to me, i feel like a lot of au versions of chars are essentially canon based ocs, but people still seem to like it and that's fine and not a problem at all. play what you want, right?

i think it depends on the approach to auing. a lot of people who like AUs like them because they get to use a favorite OU as a pb for an OC and have people stroke them for it, no lie. but on the other hand there are people who just like to take on the challenge of adapting a character without losing their core.

i see it both ways because im a comics fan so i remember stuff like elseworlds or whatever where superman grows up in russia or the justice league are in the wild west. and some of those stories were great - genuine explorations of the characters we love but in a different context that makes us think about how much of that character is their nature and how much came from who raised them and in what context. but then some of them were crap and basically just like totally unrelated characters wearing similar clothes.

me, i like aus in theory as long as they stick to the first formula, but its impossible to avoid the second formula when you actually join such a game and that discourages me from them.

but thats another story i guess

got a better idea

let's ban ocs from every game but yours, and then let yours ban canon characters and all the ocs

quarantine them like a proper disease

and here come the edgelords

you tittybabies practically ring the dinner bell for them, you deserve each other

i could understand a couple years ago when there weren't that many oc friendly games. even some of the older games that transferred over from lj would talk about if they should allow ocs in and always get a huge no. but there are so many games that are open to ocs now that getting upset that one of the newer ones opening doesn't just feels like there's an expectation that all new games have to be open to them. they don't.

honestly, a lot of games are oc friendly in name only. they're allowed, but are hamstrung by the idea that ocs are somehow worse merely because they're ocs.

there's nothing to be done about that, though. you can't force individual players to like ocs anymore than you can force them to like homestuck or undertale characters or something like that. it's not the same as being disallowed, and most games these days do allow ocs.

which is not the fault of the game itself but then falls to the playerbse either being unfriendly and cliquey, or the unfortunateness of shitty ocs making most ocs look shitty by association. the problem is that there's a vocal contingent of oc players that call foul on everything. i've seen plenty of ocs that make an actual effort to play and they do fine in games. it's usually the ones that top level with no hooks and cry they get no tags or who don't tag around and complain that they have no cr that are the most vocal about oc oppression. the ocs that make the effort to tag out, be available, don't shoehorn into things and demand they be catered to are the ones that get lots of cr and are welcomed into games.

i'm not saying there aren't players that refuse to play with ocs (i've run into quite a few that won't even give an oc a chance and won't play in games with ocs, so yes, they exist), but why would you want to play with those people anyway? in games where the entire playerbase is cold shouldering an oc/ocs in general, they're usually the same type of players that will cold shoulder an obscure character as well because most of them are only in it for cast cr or shiny hunting. that's not the game's fault for being open to ocs. that's just bad luck that a game open to ocs got filled with a shitty clique.

aren't the mods supposed to do something about cliqueyness? so wouldn't that make it the fault of the game for not keeping their playerbase in line?

the sad thing is you can't force people to play with someone or thing they're not interested in.

no? the mods can't force people to play with someone they don't like. if someone apps in and all the rest of the game are playing with each other and ignoring one particular player/character, the mods can't come in like teachers and demand that johnny gets a turn on the slide too. it's unfortunate if someone can get shunned/ignored out of a game, but there's literally no rule in any game that says that anyone has to play with anyone else. they can enforce that they don't play with just one person/two people and tag out more, but they can't say 'tag johnny because no one else is'.

look at it this way; what if kayvin or a crappy gross wanker came into a game you were in and for some reason wasn't banned from it (not that that'll ever happen, but this is an example). no one has to play with them. the mods can't make anyone play with them. the game can collectively decide to give them the finger by not playing and oops, they have to drop because they can't make ac. now, that's an intentional shunning that's designed to get someone out of a game. most of the time with ocs, it's not the game collectively deciding to say fuck you to the player, but it just so happens that sometimes the entire playerbase is just 'that playerbase' and they don't want to play with an oc and the oc does have to drop because they can't make ac. and no, the mods can't make the game play with them anymore than they can make the game play with a wanker.

what do you expect the mods TO do? they can't twist people's arms and make them play with people they don't want to play with

anyone who thinks they should is nuts, i remember becca screaming at the genessia mods to do this back during her epic meltdown

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