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Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

same thing they always do to players who aren't tagging out of their comfort zone.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

which.... is?

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

what do mods do when a player doesn't tag outside of their clique? when they ignore tags?

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

uh, nothing?

mods can ask a player for different AC if they're turning it in with the same two or three characters every month, but that's about it. they can't do anything about ignoring tags, nor about staying in your clique if you have a modicum of intelligence about it.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

they can issue strikes

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

... no. no, they can't. not for not tagging a specific player. not if they want to keep the game open and not have a mass exodus.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

not a specific player. a whole group of them.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

yeah, for serious infractions

not tagging you is not a serious infraction and they're not going to issue them on your behalf because then the whole game would have strikes

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

if you're trying to say you think mods should wag their finger and lecture their players to tag you, stop dancing around and just come out and say it

i mean, that's only tried by the most spineless of mods in response to bawling tittybabies and it never ever works because as like half a dozen people have pointed about you can't make someone play with people they don't want to play with--

but if that's what you keep ~hinting at~ stop being a pussy and just come out and say it. own your crazy

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

? ? ?

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

so enlighten us

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

It's different, though.

If Player A is tagging 3 other characters and ONLY those three, the mods can easily say 'we'd like to see you tagging some different characters next AC'. That's different than saying 'hey, tag this one character' to a player that tags out a lot.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

it really isn't

people tag who they want to tag. period. we bitch and moan about the dais but the reality is no mod can make a player play with people they don't want to play with. some people really do join games just to play with their friends, and it's not really in the spirit of a game, but there's no rules against it either. cliques are a part of every game because they're just a part of human nature

i get the feeling you're the sort of player who bounces from game to game because you keep getting "ignored" and you fail to see the one common denominator in all your failures

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

Huh? I'm not OP and I was saying that you can't force people to play with OCs if they don't want to.

I've just seen mods approach people only playing with the same 2-3 characters before and telling them to tag out a bit more. To me, that's fine. But telling people who tag out plenty to go tag the poor neglected OC wouldn't really work.

da

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I totally understand that some people clique with others in the way they RP, but if you join a game and completely close yourself off to anyone else for CR then maybe you really should move it to a musebox.

I'll admit, there are people in my game who's tags I pounce on at every opportunity. But that shouldn't limit someone from branching out and seeking CR elsewhere. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. If you only allow yourself to tag a very small group of people, then yeah you do come off as an asshole if you're in a panfandom game.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

but but but mods can't force people to play with anyone!

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

No, they can't. But players CAN call each other out as being assholes, and if you limit yourself to a tiny group then yeah, you're kind of an asshole.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

and if you exclude a whole group of people based on nothing they've actually done to you, you're also an asshole.

and this is why you let people play and stop handflapping about it.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt isn't talking about those kind of players tho, they're talking about being shunned gamewide because they're too autistic to know they're in a game where ocs aren't wanted even if they're technically allowed

kinda like how holly heights technically allows las

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

there's levels to it, like with most things. i think we're all in agreement that the dais tagging just their 1 or 2 besties and ignoring everyone else need to stop squatting and clear out. but if a certain minority character type (ocs, kids, etc) is shunned by the game as a whole that should probably be a signal to the player they need to look for a different game. not all games character to every character type and a lot of games just allowed ocs to avoid the inevitable oc player bitchfits if they didn't. just because they don't have rules against playing ocs or kids doesn't mean the players there are interested in them. these players need to let go of their raging entitlement and just go somewhere where they're wanted instead of yelling for the mods to mandate people tag them

sa

[(Anonymous)]

I'm in complete agreement with you there. As someone who's played both canon characters and ocs, if your oc isn't working with the game or theme or whatever then it's best to bow out. Same thing with a canon character that just doesn't work out. It goes both ways.

My main concern was with the person who eluded to the idea that ALL ocs were subpar and no one wanted to thread with them. And that really isn't the case.

dda

[(Anonymous)]

you're either ayrt or a da, not sa unless you're replying to yourself.

but as someone in this discussion, it's not so much that all ocs are subpar, but that most people have had experiences where they don't like ocs and don't want to play with them. in an ideal world, they'd give new ones a chance, but there's no reason they should outside of 'it'd be a nice thing to do'. not all ocs are bad. they're not good, either. just like there are so many bad versions of canon chars out there. it's the players, not really the chars.

but when the players sit there and throw tantrums that no one wants to play with them, it's sort of its own cause and effect in having people back away with their hands up.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

(pst the header you wanted was ayrt aka anon you referred to, you used sa which means same poster. just for future reference)

yeah this definitely isn't an oc only thing, medium divide is a reality of this particular hobby and there are numerous other games like holly heights that allow any character type in theory, but in actuality are mostly comprised of a certain type. a person who joins and gets ignored has the option of screaming for more cr, but they just look so bad in doing it that i can't imagine anyone sane trying. most people know when to cut their losses and move on

as for ocs, the problem with them is that there's a very specific stereotype about the kind of people their players are. idk if the one anon in here is sincere, or if they're a troll trying to play up that stereotype, but they really are playing it to the hilt. people tend to avoid ocs in this hobby because they don't want to get tangled up with people like that anon (or who they're pretending to be if they're a troll) and whether it's fair or not all oc players end up tarred with that brush

Re: sa

[(Anonymous)]

and there are a lot of people with this view, which makes it hard for people who play ocs. i don't play ocs, and i don't think i ever will because of this snobbery.

Re: ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

if the answer you're going for is 'absolutely nothing', then you'd be correct. mods can't force people to either a) tag people that no one else is just to get tags for that person or b) ask people to tag 'outside their comfort zone' unless that comfort zone consists of one-three players. in that case, they're playing in a small, cliquey circle and might as well psl it up. it'd be nice if more players were open to playing with a lot of cr, but the fact is, we're creatures of comfort and want what's familiar and fun for us. you can't make anyone tag someone that they don't want to. not specifically. the mods can (and have) said 'hey, you're only tagging three people repeatedly. we'd like to see you add a fourth and fifth this ac', but they can't say 'you're only tagging three-four people, we need you to tag johnny specifically'.