rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2014-02-21 09:57 pm

Unfunny wanky stereotypes

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Can someone explain to me why everyone seems to jizz over Enjolras/Venus. Also, (apparently) obligatory, Hawkeye.

I see mentions of those two things everywhere, and I don't get it. Not in a 'wtf is wrong with them' way, but I legitimately don't understand why they're so frequently mentioned and everyone freaks out over it each time.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
They have friends who go anon a lot?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Not only here, but I see plurks about new happenings in the relationship between Venus and Enjolras, where everyone jumps in and gets excited. And I... just don't get it?

Maybe there's some build-up I'm missing, but Enjolras has always been about as romantic as a bag of potatoes to me. Didn't he disapprove of Marius for swooning over Cosette, and isn't he like frequently described as being chaste in the novels?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
It's been building up for about a year OOC, and ICly Enjolras isn't even in the ship yet, they're only just realizing that they want to be together. YMMV but the trajectory was that Enjolras started chaste and completely disinterested in romance and that their friendship, over many months, turned into love.

It's popular because it's two active characters, the players are clearly having a lot of fun with it, and one of the characters is a mod character with a ton of CR.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
no

just, no.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Emphasis on one is a mod character.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
as far as i know, there's been months and months of build up and neither of the characters has actually done anything physical? i could be mistaken, but i thought it was more ship teasing than anything else.

and he is as romantic as a sack of potatoes, which has been pointed out in a few places (venus's post back in january or december comes to mind, along with some of the logs with marius).

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
it's literally against canon for enjolras to be in a relationship, especially with a woman

just saying

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Is this one of those OOC creepy neckbeard situations?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
i don't know about that but

"[I]t did not seem as though he were aware there was on earth a thing called woman. He had but one passion - the right; but one thought - to overthrow the obstacle. [...] He hardly saw the roses, he ignored spring, he did not hear the carolling of the birds; the bare throat of Evadne would have moved him no more than it would have moved Aristogeiton; he, like Harmodius, thought flowers good for nothing except to conceal the sword. He was severe in his enjoyments. He chastely dropped his eyes before everything which was not the Republic. [...] Woe to the love-affair which should have risked itself beside him! If any grisette of the Place Cambrai or the Rue Saint-Jean-de-Beauvais, seeing that face of a youth escaped from college, that page's mien, those long, golden lashes, those blue eyes, that hair billowing in the wind, those rosy cheeks, those fresh lips, those exquisite teeth, had conceived an appetite for that complete aurora, and had tried her beauty on Enjolras, an astounding and terrible glance would have promptly shown her the abyss[.]"

so

there's that

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
oh wow

that's

uh

the abyss, huh

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that hugo prob. didn't mean the abyss of love

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:12 am (UTC)(link)
You should crit them.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
I know that they're already well aware that this argument against their characterization exists. In fact, they've said before they think it's funny that they're playing him OOC in this regard because they think it's sticking it to tumblr SJWs who are always crying "queer erasure".

I can't be taken seriously in that kind of environment, so there's really no point in trying.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
considering both the players involved are queer, i'm calling bullshit on that

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
okay, don't really care what you think, i saw it myself.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
plus isn't lisa an lgbt rights lawyer or something?

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
I like how you ignore that the reasons that, at least Lisa, tends to get frustrated with Tumblr SJWs is because they appropriate real life issues that she spends all day actually working over (like queer rights) to push their fandom agendas, often pushing over into the territory of bullying.

like, you know, making nasty anon comments about a character who is, at best, asexual in canon. and, as many asexual will tell you, being asexual doesn't mean you can't fall in romantic love. So, you're also practicing another form of erasure, if we're going to get into that.

and instead try to paint her as an anti-representation homophobe.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
"nasty anon comments"? when and where did I do that? and "about a character"? all I did was quote canon. I literally quoted Victor Hugo. i'm sorry that was mean to enjolras somehow.

I am NOT the ones saying what they're doing is queer erasure because i don't want to bring that SJW shit into this. i AM saying it's OOC because it is.

the fact that people start thinking i'm a SJW and calling Lisa a homophobe just because I posted a literal quote from the book is the reason why I can't crit them. the SJWs have already invalidated anything I could try to say.

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao i love that this wouldn't even be an issue if enjolras was played gay

i've never seen wank about the million much shittier ones that were using him to poorly hop les amis cock

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-27 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks for proving you didn't read the quote

Enjolras is compared over and over and over again to gay figures in classic works by Hugo so Enjolras being gay is more in character than him being with a woman

them's the breaks

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 04:26 am (UTC)(link)
as someone who's actually read the brick

you're trying it hard with this

enjolras is an asexual. him being gay and him being straight are equally ooc.

go back to tumblr and fap to the idea of mutual enjolras/grantaire

at least the ship's not fucking eponine/enjolras

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
the point of enjolras being chaste is not that he's asexual. it's that he thinks everything else is more important than sex. hugo does this with his other characters. valjean, javert, marius before cosette were all virgins.

but he is compared to gay figures not in relation to grantaire: antinous, harmodius and aristogeiton. these are all figures whose homosexual relationships were prominent in their stories or lives.

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