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da

[(Anonymous)]

oh but me abt murakami and female characters, seriously

i feel like murakami writes in a way that makes for very quotable, aesthetic stuff that often ends up on those tumblr blogs about nice, punchy or pretty or aesthetic or etc excerpts of text but actually trying to read some of his work was an experience, let's just say? i definitely had to make myself work to finish 1Q84 for example.

Re: da

[buson]

EXACTLY!!

Murakami's quotable, but hell, Mishima is BEYOND quotable too, but maybe he'd only really appeal to people who have very unhinged beauty-as-destruction and love-as-consumption kind of mindsets (which makes him great for character inspirations, one of my favourite videos on YouTube had an English interview with him and a lady ranting about how much she detested him [likely for his... bizarre politics, rather than his very pretty prose, see his attempt to restore power to the Emperor], "Here comes this writer—this archaic monster—setting Japan back by a century!" WHAT A DESCRIPTION), people on tumblr sure seem to share his fascination with St. Sebastian paintings in a... homoerotic way... but everybody just goes for Murakami because he's quotable-out-of-context in a very appeals-to-most-people-without-sounding-too-weird, I guess. A quote of his even showed up A Series of Unfortunate Events, of all places...

He's like... those shows on Netflix that have those scenes you KNOW were written and filmed to be easily taken out of context of the show (and might even feel shoehorned in) so they can be posted everywhere as gifs or clips. Maybe it reads better in Japanese (I'm told, specifically, Mishima is hard to read even for a lot of Japanese folks, as beautifully flowery as it is, given his upbringing, he uses a lot of uncommon words...), but in terms of something as universally understandable as male writers writing in a very dehumanizing, objectifying, fetishistic, and leery way about female characters—ick!

Anyway. I'm sorry for ranting very autistically about Japanese writers, but, I got excited, PFFT, and I'm also glad someone else shares my opinion?! I always felt like a complete oddball and outcast in a sea of Murakami-lovers.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Da, ty for this thread because I always loved how murakami structured his prose and how it was translated but also hated how he handled women

I'm gonna check out mishima

Re: da

[buson]

Enjoy! The Sound of Waves is quite praised for its very sweet and innocent love story and it's a relatively short book at that... you'll notice a difference in how Mishima writes women right from the start! They're very human, fleshed-out, narratively treated with respect. But, fair warning, there is an attempted rape in this story (by an antagonistic character.) I've just started reading that one, but wanted to for a long time! ^^ It had once received an anime adaptation long ago, but I can't seem to track it down...

Of the ones I mentioned, The Sailor Who Fell From Grace With the Sea, however, definitely warrants a warning (more for squicky character behaviour than anything), the protagonist peeps on his mother at the start and it's pretty lurid??? This is the closest thing Mishima's women get to ~breasting boobily~, so that's not one to read if you're trying to get away from writing that would end up on r/MenWritingWomen.

A Death in Midsummer is a short story, as such, all the characters are not very fleshed-out, but it paints a picture of a family grieving a terrible loss, while life goes on normally around them, almost insultingly. It's almost darkly funny at times, but it's a really lovely little story about how alienating grief and trauma can be. It's very short and not really the sort of thing you read for Mishima's beautiful prose, though.

The Temple of the Golden Pavilion is basically the example of Mishima's love-as-destruction and is based on a real life incident back in the 50's where a monk burned a historic temple?! Fun fact: the Kinkaku-ji is likely the inspiration for Pokemon's Burned Tower. But I have not read this one yet, so. I have no more to say!

original da

[(Anonymous)]

in this thread we are all shaking hands about how murakami writes women, you love to see it

time to go check out a death in midsummer and the temple of the golden pavilion, both those descriptions sound right up my alley