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[(Anonymous)]

it's generally a faux pas to use fanart icons around here but if you have artist permission or at the very least can provide art credit, you might get icon makers to do them

bad practice to commission them though

da

[(Anonymous)]

...is it? i've never heard of this and everyone i know on dwrp uses fanart icons.

op

[(Anonymous)]

if it is, it's news to me. the proper etiquette as i've always known it has been to get permission from the artist if you can and credit them regardless, but beyond that, i haven't seen any discourse about us as a community moving away from using fanart for icons. it feels like every other character i see on bakerstreet has them, and that's not getting into the ones in games.

[(Anonymous)]

It is absolutely not a faux pas. There might be a few people who are purists or turn their noses up at them but the vast majority of dw is fine with fanart icons. Just source responsibly.

[(Anonymous)]

+1 fanart icons are still a thing, though many people try a lot harder to at least source them properly these days

they're right when it comes to the commissioning part, tho. i don't run commissions myself, but i'd imagine it's bc it's kinda not great optics-wise to be charging ppl actual money for cropping and color-filtering another person's art

[(Anonymous)]

If I, an artist, drew fanart of a character and someone else paid someone to crop and adjust the saturation or whatever I would not care at all. Just credit me and link back to my art page. Good icon makers have an eye for how 100x100 squares require a different approach to be legible and presentable and pleasing. I totally understand the optics though, I can not speak for all artists.

Some characters (like book or retro video ganes) have absolute dogshit options for nice icon material other than fanart, it's tough.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, as another artist, I would be pretty ticked off if someone else paid someone to edit my work into icons, even with credit. It's just not how I intended the work to be presented, and I'd rather be commissioned to draw art made-for-icons anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

which is why it would be a faux pas to use YOUR fanart that way. the use of fanart icons is based on the permission given by the artist. that doesn't make the use of fanart icons inherently an rp faux pas, though, especially when it has been accepted (and fanartists have been having their permission asked for) since the LJ days.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

fanart icons are fine. don't make stuff up.

what ISN'T FINE is:
- not crediting the artist
- using art that the artist has said they don't want used elsewhere
- removing watermarks/sigs/etc
- using art from someone else's commissioned artwork

[(Anonymous)]

i feel like this argument comes up and gets subsequently disproven on every post at this point

[(Anonymous)]

because there's someone who really wants it to be true.

[(Anonymous)]

"it's a bad look to use fanart icons around here unless you have permission from the artist"

"no it isn't, you can totally use fanart icons if you have permission from the artist"

[(Anonymous)]

dude they said it was a bad look to use fanart icons period, but that if you were GOING to, the least you can do is credit. maybe they meant to say it isnt a bad look with credit, or maybe they even meant to say "it's a bad look to commission icons from fanart", but what they said was literally "it's generally a faux pas to use fanart icons around here", which is simply not true.

[(Anonymous)]

someone else in this thread already said credited fanart is the norm nowadays so the need to qualify already kinda proves that anon was right? it is a bad look if you don't credit. will it stop people from using fanart icons, obviously not, but saying that it's not mildly stigmatized is kinda ehhh of you

even the person who offered to make fanart icons has a laundry list of rules attached

[(Anonymous)]

I'm having trouble understanding where you're making these connections from what I said. Maybe I didnt say it clearly so let me try again.

It is a bad look to repost unsourced fanart without permission in any context, icons or otherwise, so yes of course it is stigmatized to misuse fanart. This is not unique to icon usage.

however many fanartists, including myself, have been personally asked for permission to use our art for icons. I have been asked often enough that I have put a blanket statement in my TOS that anyone can use my fanart for icons as long as they dont ask me to make them because I don't want to make them.

many fanart makers go out of their way to source and ask permission when making icons from fanart, and so when they post icons for public use, those icons are all sourced in the very same page.

I have never encountered someone saying that using sourced fanart for icons was a faux pas before this thread, and before a certain point people didn't even care if you sourced them or not. So no, in my experience, I have not witnessed the "mild stigmatization" of the use of fanart icons the way you are describing it, unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean by stigmatization.

[(Anonymous)]

it's not a faux pas among people who play from canons that heavily rely on fanart to have any icons at all or to have icons that aren't samey chibi looking art. it's just something that people who don't play from those canons think is cringe, and so there are a few anons who tie themselves in knots over it, even though none of those players would be tagging those canons anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

meh, I don't play from those canons but I wouldnt consider them cringe either. you gotta do what you gotta do.

what's the community thoughts on playing from a LA canon with plenty of available icons and using stylized fanart?

[(Anonymous)]

100% fanart icons instead of the la source? big rarity tbh. im actually not sure ive ever seen that personally...maybe in cases like book rpers a la harry potter or whatever, where they're trying to use something else instead of the movie adaptation actors?? i guess id just find it odd

ive seen a mixture of la and fanart before, though, and they seem to get along just fine

na

[(Anonymous)]

for me it isn't about LA or animation. if your canon has plenty of material and you use ONLY fanart then something's fishy. please notice the emphasis on "only". fanart to compensate for a few expressions canon lacks is fine. fanart for canons with no icon material is also fine.

Re: na

[(Anonymous)]

+1

if there is plenty of canon source material but you use primarily fanart i would honestly assume you only want them to look 'hot' and plan to play the character as extremely ooc or horny because this has been my experience so far with those types

Re: na

[(Anonymous)]

dda but oh man yeah this is exactly it...there was a trend i couldn't put my finger on with the handful of journals i've seen doing this, and you just hit the nail on the head

big vibes that they feel like the canon appearance is too fugly for the kind of rp they're looking for (shippy and/or smutty exclusively)

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

yeeeep that's exactly what i was thinking of

+1

[(Anonymous)]

if you play from a canon that has plenty of iconnable material (and by that i mean good-quality stuff for caps because i've played from some canons that technically had plenty of material but the lighting on most of it was so hideous that it made making icons a nightmare) and you use fanart instead, yeah, that's a big red flag.

[(Anonymous)]

it's dumb

[(Anonymous)]

It isn't a faux pas to use fanart for icons, but it is considered distasteful if you don't credit the original artist or worse, you take credit for the icons itself without acknowledging the original artist. I've seen people do DNT on fanart icons and not at all credit the artist (or iconmaker if they decided to edit another iconmaker's icons), and I honestly avoid those rpers just from distaste.

I think commissioners don't like doing fanart icons for the same reason, especially with money involved. People are mostly ok with fanart icons and have their own preferences on whether or not they themselves use it (I don't make fanart icons, but I would tag those who use them so long as the icons are properly credited).