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Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

Zero has all the themes of the series, the only difference is there's more wide spread suffering that isn't just confined to the girls of the series to prime them for the protag's healing dick. Zero has a lot of flaws, but the whole franchise has a lot of flaws and acting like Zero doesn't feed into FSN and FSN doesn't feed into Zero while bemoaning the beauty of the VN is neckbeard talk, plain and simple.

because having a little girl raped with worms and used as motive dispenser for an older man obsessed with her mother is so deep, amirite

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah and FSN doesn't have Saber and Rin sexually assaulted either and is such a ~pure and empowering~ part of the series.

Look, if you're going to be in this fandom don't Stan for one part like its purer than another. It's all got some dark, fucked up aspects somewhere.

But hey, Saber getting raped in a pretty white dress is so much more deep, amirite?

da

[(Anonymous)]

oh my god. lmao.

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

the difference is, despite the dark shit that happens, saber and rin still got to have their own goddamn agency and control of their own destinies in the vn. none of the female characters got that privilege in zero, only the men. that's the whole point of dressing down the original comment shitting all over the vn and praising zero, because they got their criticism completely backwards

zero is still a good thing, despite its flaws, and so is the vn, but to mark your comparison based on how the female characters are treated, zero has way more against it. it's weird that someone makes their stance based on that.

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

tbh I'm not the one who is making this the marker. What I've been saying in this thread is what material is available as part of the franchise and what, imo, is more suitable for newer fans to use to test the water with.

Anons in this thread got their collective undies in a bunch because Zero dared to get mentioned and tried to trot out reading the VN as the be-all-end-all of what a brand new fan should go to. And I disagree.

I actually don't have a horse in this race as far as treatment goes, but I did have a knee-jerk reaction above because I'm a little bored of this line that "FSN is ~so progressive~ and good to its woman and Zero is fucking awful and out of step and no-one should ever touch it or acknowledge it ever omgggggg" because it's such a myopic view of FSN.

What I object to, basically, is acting like FSN is all high school cuteness and women's empowerment and overlooking its own canonical grossness in favor of screaming about how much more awful Zero is. Like, ladies, please, you're both got excessively gross bits. Chill.

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/69645.html?thread=222273293#cmt222273293 this is a little more than "daring to mention zero". not that the comment they replied to was any less salty, but this thread started from the linked one.

parent up every once and awhile, you'll save yourself a little embarrassment.

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm a little bored of this line that "FSN is ~so progressive~ and good to its woman and Zero is fucking awful and out of step and no-one should ever touch it or acknowledge it ever omgggggg" because it's such a myopic view of FSN."

This is literally the first time on RPAnons and Wankgate both where I have seen people support FSN over F/Z. Actually, the first time I've seen it on the internet outside of friends I talk to. And believe me, I spend way too much time lurking around.

You may not have a horse in this race but you sure are salty over something that has never happened except right now.

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

f/sn isn't super progressive but it has some decent bits and is certainly better about its female cast than f/z

Re: -1

[(Anonymous)]

you sound super butthurt that your precious zero isn't universally worshipped and its flaws are being addressed, sweetie