rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2016-06-13 06:38 pm

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Re: Asking for a friend

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Prefacing this with a "I do solo scanlations."

No, there isn't.

If you post it, they'll be uploaded to manga websites when someone finds them. It's super easy to rip images from pdfs. Hell, it's easy to take kindle store manga/comics/books and rip all the pages in 2 minutes or less. It doesn't matter if most people are too lazy/don't know how. All it takes is one person.

And obviously watermarks aren't going to stop people. They want to know what's going on with the story; they don't care who did it except to know where to go for more. Personally, unless the person made the characters/series themselves, ie it isn't a doujin of an existing canon, then I don't think they should be using watermarks. Watermarks imply you made it. Scanning, typesetting, translating etc... Yeah, you did the work but it's not "yours." No, not even the translation is yours because even if you did it yourself, you don't own the rights to the original text.

So yeah, if you don't want it spreading everywhere, don't post it publicly. And even then, don't post it anywhere if you want to be sure it won't be reposted elsewhere, but then why bother working on it, right?

tl;dr Your friend is doing something illegal, and your friend's group has no right to complain how their illegal scans are used. Similarly, doujin authors/artists don't have a right to complain if their work is based on someone else's existing work they don't have the rights to.

da

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you on most of this, but doujin is completely legal in Japan, so the doujin artists aren't doing anything illegal at all. copyright is different there.

dda

(Anonymous) 2016-07-01 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not, but publishers ignore it because it's good advertising. in fact copyright is way worse in japan, that's why pixiv artists are so paranoid about their art appearing on other sites. they're afraid the companies will find it.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2016-07-03 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
+1 it's the same as what happens with fanartists in the us. it's not legal, it's just that someone who isn't making a ton of money really isn't worth wasting their legal teams on unless they want to use someone as an example. a few years ago there was a big scare about fanart at comic cons being commissioned - and that was by "big name" artists (ie, published comic artists). not everyone is adam hughes pulling in $1000 a sketch and i don't doubt adam has his work arounds.

the point is, the reason you see "don't repost" on fanart and doujinshi from japan isn't so much translations and what not as it is the exposure. it's controlled in printed matter or on a small site in japan. i can guarantee they never expected 1/200 copies of a doujinshi would be scanned and uploaded online with their style/a handle of theirs attached to it, especially if it's smut.

Re: dda

(Anonymous) 2016-07-03 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
same anon and i'd like to add this is also why the scanlations sites of yore were typically password-only forums or through irc channels. it gave them some control of it and made it harder to get a hold of.

Re: Asking for a friend

(Anonymous) 2016-07-02 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
I would like to point out one thing.

Like with doujinshi, part of why people ignore it is that doujinshi artists aren't supposed to be getting rich off of it. Same with scanlations.

The sites that steal scanlations use them to make huge profits, without doing any work. That feels a lot worse to some people, like the difference between a fan artist and someone who makes a website posting all of their art without credit. They're taking it a few steps further.