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I just wanted to let you guys know that adding an asterisk to “trans” and also to things like “trans woman” or “transphobia” is transphobic in that it’s used to exclude people who arent “trans enough” (so they cant be trans, but they’re allowed in if there’s an asterisk), and also from what i understand it is commonly used against trans women as a form of transmisogyny. thanks!

can someone explain

sjws splitting hairs

because even if you just finished the longest die cis scum rant in the history of the internet, this punctuation mark changes everything

no. no we can't.

i can't stop laughing so no

when i first saw trans* used it was for including groups like genderqueer and agender and whatever other alt-gender stuff the kids come up with nowadays so this is doubly baffling

same. in addition, I thought it was like, people who are trans* meaning... trans men, trans women, whatever gender ambiguity and expression in between, etc.

so for example saying "trans* issues" meant you weren't being exclusionary to trans men or trans women specifically? IDEFK

Kids these days don't know how to run a damn wildcard search.

I was just going to say this. Someone teach these morons what a wildcard is before they hurt themselves.

no. let them hurt themselves. they might gain some real life perspective that way.

Oh Lawd, this shit. Look, there's no explanation; just sjw craziness. Especially because they're now claiming people who never even used the asterisk were the ones who invented it, because transphobia and transmisogyny.

Honestly, real sick of these entitled shits.

i miss the days when "trans" specifically meant people who are honest-to-god transgendered, have gender dysphoria, and are trying to transition to the opposite gender

Me too, anon, especially as I am that kind of trans, and the non-dysphoric crowd is making it difficult to be taken seriously. It's enough to make me wanna go all vigilante on their asses. : \

what about non-binary people with dysphoria

Then congratu-fucking-lations, one is trans.

The point is that one ought to have gender/sex dysphoria. And while my personal feelings state that one should also probably be trying to do something about it (i.e. transition)... well, one can have dysphoria and not transition. So I suppose transitioning isn't necessary, WITH THE CAVEAT that one shouldn't then act as though one is experiencing the same oppressions as more visibly trans people do.

(Also, no, just having social dysphoria shouldn't count, imho. If one's problem is one's gender role, then one should instead work to challenge perceptions of one's gender role. But one should not consider oneself trans simply because of issues with societal notions of gender. Not only does that attitude reek of internalised sexism, it does a disservice to people who are in need of medical treatments -such as hormones and surgery- to alleviate very real mental distress that cannot be alleviated by therapy alone.)

i basically consider myself an sjw and i still don't understand what the hell this person was on about

I'll take a stab at the insane logic, though I admit to not being sure if I even fully understand it.

My thought is that it's because the asterisk makes the term more general so it can refer to any person who is transsexual. Pretty much it becomes a wildcard where the asterisk can be used to represent anything after the word "trans". But trans itself has a particular meaning to it. I could see where it could be transphobic, but not for that reason. It's more for the "oh, if I put an asterisk I don't have to worry about accidentally causing offense with the wrong term" so people can be lazy and not bother trying to understand the person and what they truly identify as.

What I don't get is why someone would add an asterisk to trans woman or transphobia. Trans* is supposed to be a general term, and those two words are more specific words. Is it like trans* woman? Because to me typing it like that is up there with stuff like ATM machine and PIN number. It's redundant except the redundancy isn't outright stated.

i'm actually kind of grateful for ridiculous transsexuality terminology nitpicking. years ago, back when sjw-ism was just kicking into gear and had a veneer of credibility, it was somebody arguing about transman and transwoman versus trans man and trans woman, saying that one of them was offensive, i forget which. arguing about the space. and people were taking them seriously.

that was the exact moment i had a revelation: "This is incredibly stupid."

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