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let's get the most obvious question out of the way first: verdict?

There were 4 total charges, and we found him not guilty of everything except illegal firearm possession.

Other charges were 1st degree murder, felony murder, and robbery.

Dumbass question maybe, but what is the difference between a paralegal and a law clerk?

What do you do for the state?

What are some of the funniest deliveries you've made? Anyone answering the door naked or surrounded by billowing clouds of pot smoke?

What does the structure of doing comic books look like? Do you work in groups on the same images (pages, I guess?) or is it different people working on different parts/projects?

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What led you to the not guilty verdict? How did the other jurors talk about the case, as in were the vindictive and eager to punish the accused or…? Any elements of the whole process you found particularly disturbing or heartening?


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Great questions, anon. I'm gonna tackle them one at a time.

- What led to the not guilty verdict?
Basically, the prosecution's case was shit. They had one really unreliable witness linking the defendant to the murder victim in any way, and everything else was more or less window dressing. The defendant was a young kid from the bad part of a city with prior drug convictions, and he had no one to speak up for him (literally, not a single witness for the defense - when I realized that, my heart fucking broke for him). I think it was really just easiest for the cops to decide to believe their witness and turn on this kid. And don't get me wrong - it's possible the witness was right and this kid did it all, but it's certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt, and that's the standard for criminal conviction. The robbery and felony murder charges in particular were really bullshit, to the point that we weren't even told that robbery was part of the case until the prosecution's closing remarks. We figured they were throwing it at the wall as a plea deal negotiation tactic, but there was no deal.

- How did the other jurors talk about the case?
Fun fact, the jurors aren't allowed to discuss the case even amongst themselves until all the evidence has been presented and arguments made. Not a word until we went to deliberate. Admittedly, we all kind of slid around it a little - tiny comments because it was really hard to spend a week and a half not talking about a shared experience we were undergoing at that moment. Things like "is there a salad place near here for lunch?" "I don't know." "Is it that you don't know, or that you're inconclusive?" (A distinction the defense had just been hammering on.) So until we started deliberating I genuinely had no idea if I was going to be the lone leftist or what. Probably about half the jury was middle-aged and/or white, most were middle class, compared with the young, poor, Black defendant. And - yeah, they were by and large not impressed with him. Even the POC members of the jury were not really on the defendant's side, I think, so much as we all were offended at how shoddy the prosecution's case was. There were definitely a couple people who were ready to write the guy off, like - well if he doesn't spend the rest of his life in jail for this, it's just gonna be something else he does. Maybe that's true, I don't know. But I hope not.

- Were there any elements that were particularly disturbing or particularly heartening?
There were definitely both. The most disturbing things for me were 1) the detective in charge of the case and 2) the emotional impact of the whole process on me. The detective was just so... blatant about the police process. We were shown the video recording of her questioning the defendant and not just telling him but bullying him with lies about the evidence against him. I knew cops were free to lie in interrogations, but there's hearing it and then there's watching some college-age kid getting "your DNA was all over! We know you did it! You shot that guy then drove off sitting in a pool of his blood!" howled in his face. Which, also - yeah. The crime scene photos were grisly. I'm not a squeamish guy and I've watched plenty of violent movies, but actual photos of a real person's violent death are a whole other level. The victim was shot in the face and the driver's side of the car was fucking full of blood.

Also, not being able to discuss the case with the other jurors and not knowing where they stood - that messed with me more than I expected. I had nightmares every night while the trial was running, and a lot of them centered on the fear that we were going to get into the jury room and everyone but me was going to be dead set on conviction across the board.

But heartening - the jury were all really attentive to the case, including the alternates. We were given notebooks to take notes throughout the trial, and everyone was writing furiously the whole time. We were really engaged and interested, and when we deliberated it was clear that people had been paying attention and analyzing what we were told. There was some "Hey, I think I saw something in this piece of evidence that they didn't bring up in court, let's look..." Basically, everyone took their job very seriously as a solemn duty, and that to me was important as hell. Jury trials aren't perfect, but this did reinforce to me that they're probably the fairest system we've managed to put together to date, and there's been a lot of thought and effort put into making them as fair as they can be.

holy fuck anon, that sounds like kind of a nightmare process to go through, but i'm really glad you and the other jurors were there and doing your best by the defendant.

Thanks for sharing and big ups for trucking through. Hope you talk to someone about the heavy parts.

Question -- the defense doesn't HAVE to present alternative theories but they certainly can. Were any other possible suspects/persons of interest looked at enough that hopefully it could be solved one day?

nta but in my area a paralegal is someone who hasn’t gone to law school and provides support to lawyers while a law clerk is either

- an attorney who does research and writing for a judge
- someone who graduated law school but has not passed a bar exam yet, or
- a law student doing an internship

Thanks for doing your civic duty with care and precision.

There weren't any that were specifically discussed in the courtroom, but the prosecution's one witness was the obvious other suspect (yet more of a good reason to look at his testimony with a great deal of doubt!) and I wonder if they'll be going after him next.

And -- oh boy yeah, I have a regular therapist and a spiritual counselor and I'm gonna be spending some quality time with both of them on this whole saga.

Thank you!

I'm proud to have done it, even though it was mentally and emotionally difficult, and if I get called again the future I'll happily serve again.

It was intense as all shit and in the aftermath I'm walking around in this vaguely floaty state, like there's an inch of air between me and everything I touch. I think I'm gonna go hiking tomorrow and spend the whole day outside touching as much grass as I can find.

But I'm also really glad I was able to bring my mental A game to this thing, and really glad the rest of the jury was too. I also think, after having been through this, that the wait period before my name goes back into the lottery for jury duty is an underrated and really valuable aspect of our system. It means the courts are getting jurors who aren't burned out or full of compassion fatigue from serving. Seeing criminal trials as a mundane repetition of the same sort of crimes committed by the same sort of people (in this case, a murder over a drug deal gone sour) over and over would burn anyone out, no matter how compassionate and stouthearted, but eight days of intensity and now I'm off the hook for an absolute minimum of three years, so if/when I'm ever called again I'll be able to approach it with fresh eyes.

It's a little hard to explain succinctly, but a really general description of what I do is basically internal investigations on the stockbrokers and financial advisors who work for the firm that employs me, mostly from a regulatory/ethical standpoint.

you're a good person, anon; thank you for doing a hard thing in a kind, careful, thoughtful way. and thank you for the writeup, too -- as someone from a country with no jury trials who only knows vaguely how they work, it was really interesting to read your perspective/account, so thank you for sharing!

currently on year 3 (of 5) of getting my psychology degree in a european country (not the uk)

in very general terms, how do your investigations usually turn out? do most of the people you look into turn out to be fine, or are there a lot of crooks?

Most of our investigations turn out to be either meritless complaints or just poor customer service skills without any actual wrongdoing - that's probably about 75-80% of our outcomes. The rest is mostly fairly petty stuff, people getting sloppy with regulatory disclosures or overly aggressive in pushing advice or paid advisory services, which is a regulatory violation and something we have to issue discipline for but not a prosecutable crime. Every now and then we'll get something wild, like actual full-bore crimes or inexplicable breathtaking levels of negligence, but that's maybe 1-3 investigations a year max (when we're doing about 200 investigations a year)

what are your career plans once you have your degree? are you going to be a psychologist, or... hmm it turns out I don't know what else a psych degree leads to.

what's the wildest case of fraud/negligence you've encountered? (if you're allowed to talk about it.)

I'll have to anonymize the details a bit, but I think I can manage.

The wildest one I've personally worked, a newly-minted advisor decided that the instructions his new client had given him about getting his different accounts all pulled together weren't in his best interest, and so just. Decided to do things differently. Without fucking saying anything. Not sell things the client wanted sold and sell some different things the client wanted to keep. That's called "using discretion" and requires the client to sign a metric ass-load of paperwork before anything can be done, and... surprise! None of that paperwork had been signed. We wound up having to unwind a ton of transactions and transfers at our expense, which ran us a bill of about $18,000 when all the dust settled. The advisor managed to avoid getting fired by the skin of his teeth, but he slam-dunked straight into twelve months of having Oversight breathing down the back of his neck plus a permanent mark on his BrokerCheck record. (BrokerCheck is a public website listing all registered investment professionals and firms in the USA, including a history of regulatory actions and significant complaints. It is a little stalkery, but that's the price of getting to play with people's money.)

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