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Seconding what the other anon said. Join a murdergame first and get a taste for it before you mod it.

You mentioned The Foundation already, so maybe go for their round 4? The tdm goes up this Friday.

Now I'm having second thoughts about this when you suggest I should join a murdergame. I'm mostly a lurker on murdergames for a reason, but is it worth it in exchange for my character to get killed in the first trial?

Like me and the other anon said, murdergames are different enough from 'regular' DWRP games that you really need to play in one to know what it's like.

That said, part of being in a murdergame is accepting that your character will probably die. Roughly 2/3rds of each murdergame dies before the end of the game. You probably won't get out in the first trial (I know most murdergames try to take volunteers for the week 1 deaths), but death is going to happen eventually. So if that bothers you, then you really need to think about if murdergames are right for you.

You're right. I'm not actually willing to be forced to let my character die without my permission. Maybe I'm not willing to get out of my comfort zone by letting them die for the murdergame's sake.

I feel it's really a bad idea to share this murdergame idea in the first place.

op, judging by your attitude here, you don't sound like someone who should be modding a game period.

It's not like that. I do want to try to mod it just to see where this premise leads, but my reluctance with accepting my characters to die for the murdergame makes realize I feel like a wimp on not even trying.

I do want to mod it to make this game a reality. It's just that I needed a right push to even try a murdergame to my taste.

not for nothing, anon, but i think you just need to accept that murdergames in general 'aren't to your taste'. that's not a bad thing. i'm not into them either. there's a 70%+ chance when you app into one that your char will die. and if you're unfortunate, it happens early. i don't like the idea of joining a game to just watch. murder games are not for me.

but if you don't like that whole idea, then you might want to think of another term that suits more for what you want than adopting one that already means a thing and then trying to force-logic others into agreeing it also means purple as well as potato.

I see.

To be honest, I really don't want to be a murdergame completely. I want to have a game where several AU counterparts of the characters witness the deathgame with their canon counterparts through the app and saving them through the power of Persona.

It's like Persona 4 and 5, but with the characters saving the participants from executions.

i don't know the canon, so i don't have a clue what you're saying, but if i were you, i'd more or less put out a notion of what you want. formulate how you'd like a game to be. maybe go poke your noses in other games that are around, read premises, or look at how the theme of dw runs, because it kind of comes off like you're an outsider that doesn't know how dw/its games works and you're trying without fully understanding. running a canon-based game is totally doable and has been done here, but you need to check things out a bit more and figure out the plot/theme/run of the game before you start advertising it as anything.

Oh, I see.

I guess no matter what I do, I can never get to see this game in reality no matter what I say.

Thanks for your opinion anyway. :(

You're... Not even willing to read the premises and game settings to see what kind of games exist in DWRP so you can have a better idea of what genre your game might fit into?

I actually read the premise. In fact, the other anon suggested that this game might be a short-run game rather a murdergame.

Maybe I should start that route first?

I think you need to stop and re-evaluate if modding in general is even for you. You seem like a person who has trouble with anxiety, and that is not a good thing when it comes to modding. As a mod, you have to be the one to deal with a lot of things (problem players, player conflicts, crit about your game, the constant stream of questions from players and potential players, worrying about how to fit special cases into your game, and much more) and given that your answer to "well maybe you should try a murdergame first to see if you even like the format?" was "Well I guess my dreams are crushed, no game for me :(" I don't think you can handle being a mod right now. You need to get your personal issues under control first and stop putting your emotional responsibility on others before you're ready to be a mod.

agreeing with the anon above me.

you're not confident in your decisions and your choices in pulling together a premise, which implies you won't be confident in your decisions when modding/running a game which spells bad news. people are going to dissent and disagree: does that mean your ideas are bad? no, not necessarily. does that mean there are improvements that can be made? almost certainly. does that mean that you need to know when to put your foot down and say 'this is the idea (we're) going with'? also yes.

sometimes you will make decisions not everyone will agree with, but you need to be confident and you need to be able to stand by them.

requiring handholding in even pulling together a premise and panicking in the face of constructive criticism is ... not a good sign. your idea could be the best idea in the world, but if you don't have the confidence to pull it off, it's going to flop.

You're right. Everyone is calling my other idea weird right now and I don't even have the confidence because of the other anon's opinions. Not to mention I'm too scared to even join a murdergame.

The fact that I'm not even listening to other anons and keep asking some handholding makes me feel ashamed of myself.

Y I K E S

No.

"Everyone is calling my other idea weird right now and I don't even have the confidence because of the other anon's opinions."

This right here? Stop it.

Nobody is calling your idea weird, and it's definitely not anon's fault that you're taking advice (not even crit, but legit ADVICE) poorly.

Stop trying to blame other people for your personal problems. Myself and some other anons are trying to be genuinely helpful, and you're throwing that help right back in our faces by throwing this pity party and acting like it's our fault you have confidence issues.

Grow up. We're all adults in this hobby, so start acting like one.

anon like...do not mod a game with aspects that make you uncomfortable, it WILL make players uncomfortable,

Uncomfortable? You mean my idea might not be up to the other player's taste?

What I'm saying is, you have a set idea in mind for your game. But if you don't like certain aspects of murdergames, maybe open your game as a 'short run' game rather than a murdergame? People like Pokemon, so you'll get players no matter what. But calling a game something it's not won't be a good idea.

I see your point. So since you suggested this, then maybe it will be a short-run game than a murdergame instead.

What do you think?

That would be a good idea. Advertise the game for what it is, and you will find people who want to play.

So should I redo the whole premise and post it in another post in Game Idea?

why do you need so much handholding

I have my panicked reasons, but you have a point. I'll work on another post then with a full premise.

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