rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2018-10-20 10:50 pm

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
if this is the one that people are replurking all over my timeline, the whole d&d OC's being nonappable thing is kind of a huge disappointment ngl. why make a d&d game if you can't play d&d characters?

Someone make a counter game where it's this but only d&d OC's, that'll balance it out

(Anonymous) 2018-10-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
tbh it makes no sense. i've been in multiple campaigns that have almost nothing in common with the base dnd lore except for some monsters and the battle system. completely different gods, cultures, etc. considering them "fandom" ocs seems really stupid.

besides, critrole and taz characters are allowed? do people get that those characters are all just dnd ocs made by internet celebs? they're not any more "special" or "unique" just because the mcelroys or mercer and friends made them.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
have critroles and taz characters in my game, would prefer unknown d&d OCs instead

https://balancemod.dreamwidth.org/1668.html?thread=4740#cmt4740

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
is anyone going to tell them that a) TAZ isn't set in Forgotten Realms (if it is, it's in the loosest possible sense), b) most d&d OCs aren't either, anymore.

like they seem to be under the impression that Frogotten Realms is *the* d&d canon universe when, like, there are multiple official campaign settings and a lot of them have completely separate settings and lores, and most GMs make up their own shit anyways?

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Forgotten Realms is the default setting currently so.... yes? It is *the* canon D&D universe?

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
lmao no. you can set your campaign wherever the fuck you want. it's only "default" in the sense that the pre-generated starter campaigns are set there, and its lore peppers the guidebook.

canon implies it's the *only* setting. it's not and never was. it's just the most popular/most officially developed one. there are other campaign settings that are just as official and "canon" by the definition you seem to be working with.

furthermore, TAZ may have started with one of the preset starter campaigns, but it's gone so way far off the rails that it would be impossible to actually fit TAZ into the given FR universe. a lot of D&D campaigns are like this even if they do start in FR. they become their own worlds, deeply unique from FR.

so no, the rule is still dumb and limiting.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
lbr most people now think that everyone plays their campaigns like taz or critrole do it.

the other stupid thing about this rule is that taz only used dnd as a method of telling a story, and griffin goes "off book" for a ton of shit, including rules. taz is basically an original story based podcast with dnd flavoring.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
exactly. TAZ is born from griffin's imagination, not from a forgotten realms guidebook. it's not set in the FR world in any way that would matter to this game enough to put a blanket ban on all d&d OCs.

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why can't people just take no for an answer

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
jesus christ their clarification doesn't make it any better.

if the original intention was to keep other FR-based characters from fucking up the premise of your game, why are you banning *all* tabletop characters from established campaign settings?

this makes zero sense whatsoever, especially since most games that allow normal OCs (and this game does) don't qualify tabletop characters as fandom OCs at all.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
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just a question I've seen bouncing around: if DND characters count as fandom ocs, what about canons like Critical Role?

Balance Mods
fυℓℓ σf gнσѕтѕ: If you're looking to bring in someone like Vex'ahlia, you're more than welcome to app that character right in! However, if you've created a character set in the Vox Machina universe, we'd consider that as part of Fandom OC- which would not be app-able.

am i having a stroke

how is apping critrole characters any different than apping from any other dnd campaign?

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
"They're Canons" - but they're somebody else's 'fandom OC' by the game's rules.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
it still seems like a really weird thing to obsess over. if the game doesn't allow it, it doesn't allow it.

my guess is the mod is taking crit role as a canon by its own right due to its popularity, which makes sense as it has a huge following and a decent presence in dwrp.

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
It just seems slightly hypocritical - like I'm not gonna yell at the mods or a pitch a fit, because that's rude, just pointing out how it just doesn't seem to jive.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
critical role has a big fandom and a canon that you can check against if someone pulls some ridiculous bullshit or is wildly ooc. it makes it different i think.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
but if that's the issue, why allow ocs at all?

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
critical role has published content, you dingus. that automatically adds a level of legitimacy that most other home games have whether you like it nor not. when your d&d game gets an ongoing comic book series, then we'll talk.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
a level of legitimacy that most other home games DON'T have. gj self, you forgot an important word

(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I hope that someone makes a counter game where it's this but only d&d OC's so everybody who's whining about this can app there and leave this game alone. y'all are acting as bad as every player who whines about games not allowing OC's in general or why CAN'T I app my pony or something like that. A mod doesn't have to justify their decisions in what characters they allow to app or not.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
it was good that people asked questions to get it clarified, but continuing to whine about it is just entitled and obnoxious.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
honestly, if they just straight up didn't allow OCs at all, there's be some griping, but most people would have moved on.

it's the internal logic of their reasoning being so weirdly contrary that's ruffling feathers.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
as if most of the people arguing about this are about "consistency" and aren't just buttflustered they couldn't app their tabletop oc.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
i'm sure some of them are, maybe even most, but it doesn't change the fact that no other game has ever qualified tabletop OCs as "fandom" OCs prior to this that I can think of, and their reasoning behind qualifying them as "fandom" OCs specifically makes zero sense since TAZ isn't set in any "canon" d&d campaign setting, and even if it was, that wouldn't apply to OCs from other campaign settings or tabletop games.

if the concern is that tabletop OCs would flood the game, that's silly, because like an anon said, the majority of DWRP players don't play tabletop games, much less have their tabletop OCs imported, as far as i can tell since most games that allow for OCs get the same generic urban fantasy OCs everyone complains about.

if the concern is about lack of canon-ness compared to characters from TAZ or Critical Role, why allow OCs at all? you can easily get away with just having a blanket "no OC" rule these days. there'd be some griping, but whatever.

you can make your game with your rules, and they don't HAVE to make sense, but if you make that game open and public and have those rules out for others to read and scrutinize, you're going to get feedback if those rules are weird or wonky. that's just how RP is, anon.

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i really fail to see how making an oc in someone else's setting is not a fandom oc.

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(Anonymous) 2018-10-26 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Someone please app in a character from Acquisitions Incorporated. Jim Darkmagic would be hilarious here.