socksuke_uchiha ([personal profile] socksuke_uchiha) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2017-03-29 07:33 am

We mustn't offend the all powerful NPCs!

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
how do shipping and smut not go together

and i stg if you give me some tumblr shit about demiromantics or whatever i will reach through the monitor and punch you in your flabby tit

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm guessing that it's because some players want romance but don't want to write porn, while some players just want smut

da

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
that's it for me, at least. they scratch two different itches for me, the same way gen and shipping or gen and smut do.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
it's still stupid to get offended by the connection. things being related doesn't mean they're the exact same thing.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
no one's offended by the connection. they're saying that for the purpose of categories on backerstreet, there are three separate categories, of which memes are usually evenly balanced on. so there's 19 smut/shipping and 9 gen? seems skewed until you separate the two smushed into one category and work it as 10 shipping, 9 smut, and 9 gen. then it's more even.

less ammo for your argument, but fair.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That's not the point, though, because we're talking about this in the context of the need for a gen-oriented community. So in that context, putting ship/smut together naturally makes sense.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
no. it was taken as a consensus of gen being swamped out of bs. and in relation to it being ONE OF THREE categories, which is a fucking thing that you don't get to just sweep under the carpet to make your point, gen is not being swamped out. gen is evenly on par with the other TWO categories of the comm. it may feel like it's being swamped if you have no interest in shipping or smut, but it's on an even playing field with the amount of categories in it, which are gen, ship, smut. that's how it's always been categorized. you don't get to change it because you're making a point that isn't.

and from what i saw of the conversation, there were mentions of putting shipping (at least) memes in the 'new gen comm', so maybe you all want to talk among yourselves as to what you expect from this. you can't smoosh part of a category in the 'no' section, then say 'well, that part of the no is okay, but only that part... which isn't actually part of that other dirtier part'. almost like it's its own category.

inception.

sa

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
from the original post.

"What about a BS alternative, one that focuses on those memes which are not relationship based? They wouldn't necessarily be banned outright, but one that would discourage a weekly "mid-fuck" or whatever have you meme."

tlh is actually the 'smut' comm, but i suppose if you're only in it for gen and fluffy cuddles, bs seems more smutty. still. it wouldn't be a gen only comm. so why put ship/smut together when it's not being treated the same in the suggestion?

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
let's look at the picture prompt memes as an example.

if you go into the smut one, you're going to see nsfw stuff. if you go into the shipping one, you're, hopefully, less likely to see it.

shipping doesn't automatically equal smut or nsfw content, which is important when and if people are rping around underage people or family or w/e. sometimes it's because the chars are underage and they just want fluffy schmoop shipping. sometimes it's because the players aren't comfortable with graphic smut (think the ftb types). so those types of people will enjoy shipping, but will back the fuck out of any smut memes or not go in them. most smut players don't give a shit and will play all over the fuck. gen only players won't go in either.

so because there is a level of nsfwness in the concept of it, it makes it three different categories. gen (which, btw, isn't always nsfw, but it's just nsfw in the context of porn), shipping (which can be fluffy, schmoopy, kids in puppy love or shy glances), or smut (which is what it says on the tin. you're in their for tits and ass and dick and balls). yes, you can mix and match them, but they are, for the purpose of people playing in them, three separate categories.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I mentioned it above, but we've gotten pretty off topic. The reason we're talking about ship/smut in this thread is because bakerstreet has more of these as opposed to gen memes. So for the purposes of this thread we're talking about them as non-gen memes due to the goal of the thread.

In addition, ship/smut memes are more likely to have overlapping audiences with each other than with gen, so in terms of organizing and running a community, it makes much more sense to treat them as a unit. Technically we already have a smut comm (TLH), so anyone who cares about the distinction will be looking there more often than BS.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
no, anon. 'we' are not. you are. the rest of the comm is capable of actually treating things as they are. you don't get to relabel because it doesn't suit your narrative.

the comm suggested will 'allow' relationship memes (ship, btw, in case you didn't know it), so if they'll allow that and not smut, then there is a clear definition between the two, and lumping them together when doing a count to prove how skewed the numbers are is not okay.

especially when what the fuck did you expect? you might not count it as 3 categories, but the actual comm does. so it's evenly distributed. you're not making a point. you're trying to start an argument over semantics and you've got them wrong. 'wah, this comm that caters to everything is evenly ratioed between them and there's the same amount of gen as there is everything else. i feel like gen is getting flooded out, even though it's pretty evenly portrayed. wah'.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I literally don't even know where you got half the points you're trying to read into my post, so I'll just bow out here. Enjoy the rest of your Monday, anon.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
holy shit, could your head be any further up your own smug asshole?

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
from the words you typed, genius. 'for the purpose of this thread, WE'RE talking about-'. no. you are. 'we' are not. you do not speak for the people. you are not the rock.

in terms of organizing a community, it makes sense to have the three categories be separate, regardless of overlap. otherwise what you're doing is getting into subcategories, like horror, h/f, angst, au. there will always be overlap. rare is the person that sticks to one singular category. i play in all three. what now? does my opinion not count because i can't commit? lots of people play in all three. that doesn't make there suddenly be less than three categories that have been three separate categories since before you came along and tried to reinvent math.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
there's a difference between being the same and being connected.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, and gen and shipping can be the same if the shipping is gen. oh. look at that. darn. i can do it too.

gen doesn't mean eunuch. it means 'general', which technically can cover a variety of things. shipping and smut came along as categories afterward because of things like 'the random meme' being followed by 'the smutty random meme'. like, wtf do you think gen means? asexual? agender? genderless? it was the catch all which can and used to include shippy and smutty stuff until the need for nsfw boundaries came along..

which, btw, can apply to 'gen' stuff. h/c. torture. drugs. there's more to nsfw than boobies. and all that fits into gen.

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
except isn't the point of gen to be something other than trying to hook up, either romantically, sexually or both?

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you

Like, shipping is part of smut. Not all players writing ships will rp smut, but ffs you can't have smut without a ship TO smut with, even if it's for that one thread only. Jesus Christ.

inb4 bitching-about-aroaces!anon

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
um... yes you can. not all hookups at the bar result in a lasting relationSHIP. it's just about fucking.

same with smut. smut, particularly in memes, is just about a fuck-thread. you can interlace them with ship threads and build up cr, but you can easily have smut threads with no shipping.

goddamn, you're extra salty and trying to sprinkle that around.

i'll let you in on a little secret... (everything's a ship.) even gen. everyone has CR (character relationSHIPS), and it's the tone of how that ship goes as to what you're playing. stop trying to win. you're a pure snowflake. we get it. your fingers have never strayed to the land of dirty whores. woo. want a cookie?

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
demisexuals aren't real, jsyk

(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
i have no idea what a demisexual is, you dumbass.

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
punches you right in your saggy, hairy tit

THIS is the kind of tumblr demisexual "i have heteroplatonic datefriends!!!" fuckery i was talking about, you menstrual stain
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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
oh okay you're a troll

thanks for clearing that up

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(Anonymous) 2017-04-10 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
what the hell are you talking about. there's nothing tumblry about "smut and shipping are not inextricably linked."