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Not to get them out when they are already convicted.

and not to get ones out that just go back and rape again.

you're making it moral when it's about legality. attourney client privilege exists for a reason. a client can and often does admit to their lawyers what they did, but it is the lawyer's job to get them off or counsel them to their best advantage. like pleading guilty if there is no way they can get them off to get a lesser charge. if there is reasonable doubt, which is what the lawyer has to prove, then they are legally required to prove it. that's why they're a defender and not a prosecutor.

if they are selected to do so, yes, they legally have to do that. you don't get a fucking choice.

there are no morals in the legal process. it's not about what's right, it's about what is just.

what, did you think actual judiciary processes were like phoenix wright? that defenders have to "believe in their clients innocence?" that's not how it works in the real world.

she could have quit

you could quit this paltry low-effort trolling too

yet here you are

you legally can't, as a public defender.

other attorneys get that privilege. public defenders do not. if they could, our entire system of due process would fall apart.

actually not true if a public defender has reasonable cause (including morality, being able to actually defend the person in full capcity, or safety of life) the case can be passed to another one. It depends on the judge though. The judge is the immediate defender of due process

it's why they throw lawyers out of trial, suspend them, and sometimes force lawyers to have to retake the bar if they wear pins, like that one lady lawyer that wore a BLM pin in order to help sway the jury.

i more meant you can't quit just because you think your client is guilty.

no you can just be asked to be removed

It is on the record that she did ask and was denied.

if you go to any judge and say "Your honor, I can't defend this person because I'm pretty sure they're guilty" they're just going to fucking laugh at you and deny your motion.

https://media.tenor.co/images/f17c7e1774551db2173dc130b8744ffd/raw

so could all public defenders. public defense is a step in the law system. it's a process most people have to go through if they want to get anywhere as a lawyer.

if you don't get that, you don't get anything. but hey, let's advocate for a biased judicial system that doesn't give people the right to a public attourney because they MIGHT be guilty. blame the system, idiot, not the players in the game. the system is broken and the players have to play with a game with missing pieces.

public defenders not being allowed to quit or select their cases isn't really what makes the public defense system broken, since if they could, the right of due process would get hella fucking murky real quick.

the issue is more in how they are treated, and the case load and case work expected of them. john oliver did a super good piece on them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkEzLuzmZ4

i agree. but that's not really the argument here as it's pertaining to one particular individual who should have somehow known ahead of time that not only would her clients reoffend, but she'd be held accountable for that decades later when she ran for president. if all public defenders quit because of guilty clients or the potential they might run for president, we wouldn't have any lawyers.

john oliver hasn't done a good piece in his life.

stewart hated him for a reason and only kept him on because he was good for the ratings

he's not funny, but the piece is still informative and good. cry more.

nah it reeks of his bias and fox newsing tatics. cry harder.

what... bias is there to present

public defenders are vastly overworked and some states do, in fact, charge you fees for their use in order to somehow make up the massive strains on the system, despite the spirit of the law. that's not bias, that is fact.

the show has a left leaning stint, but there's nothing left or right about this particular piece.

any facts that contradict the conservative position are biased. reality no longer matters.

pretty sure conservatives think the system is fucked, too, though? this is a bipartisan issue

and yet the "hillary defended a rapist" talking point keeps coming up

again

and again

and again

and it will keep coming up, because the facts of the situation don't matter

... anon, parent up a bit.

i've read the whole thread. hillary was a public defender and gets shit for it, public defenders in general get shit on and are overworked, someone pointed out that john oliver did a piece on them, it was dismissed as biased. ta da.

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you do know that railroading happens and people who are innocent do get thrown into jail.

and also like the other anons said, it is part of their job and a public defender has no fucking say in the cases they take and it is their job to either keep their client from going to jail or get them released.

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