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MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

which games have cast members playing there? list 'em here you smegs!

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know if anyone plays anywhere these days but man I miss seeing all the characters on memes. I had some damn good threads.

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

TLV, i think

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there's a Furiosa, a Max, and a Nux at TLV.

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

There's a Furiosa and Max at Drift Fleet that I enjoy heartily

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

drift fleet is invite only anon

DA

[(Anonymous)]

That shouldn't stop you from looking into it! I play there and have invites, and you don't need an invite to tag into the TDM. People are more than willing to offer their invites to interested players, especially if there's a canonmate involved!

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

Anon didn't ask for non-invite games, they just asked where casts are.

You can still read Drift Fleet stuff, it's not locked.

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

still not a feminist movie

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

[Citation needed]

[(Anonymous)]

still completely swept the oscars, has universally high ratings everywhere, and will be heralded as an amazing movie and/or "feminist movie" til the end of humanity

[(Anonymous)]

[feminists yelling in the distance]

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

Why do you say this? I'm genuinely interested.

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

same

i'll forever state just because something says it's feminist doesn't mean it is regarding movies like sucker punch but i found fury road stood up

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

long reasoning short

Furiosa and the wives really don't get anything done without Nux or Max around, gets one of the wives killed due to her...I don't even want to call it a plan since it was 11% of a concept really. Furiosa's only real skill is driving, which....well Nux matches and Max exceeds by a large margin. As soon as the going gets tough one of them tries to abandon the plan and what not. Basically without the two mens The Wives and Furiosa would of just been food for the bitter earth within a day.

the argument that it's a feminist movie is that the main plot is about empowering and freeing women which makes it more about womens' right and empowerment then it anything to do with Feminism (especially the 3rd wave), but that's a whole other argument about the current and former state of Feminism.

[(Anonymous)]

Mad Max: Fury Road is a story about sexists, told by non-sexists.

I know it’s a bit confusing, because we’re so used to seeing stories about sexists told by sexists. We’re so used to sexism being portrayed by sexist male filmmakers for the sake of a sexist male audience, that we’ve been fooled into thinking this is the only way sexism even can be portrayed.

eabevella’s review of MMFR pointed out that the villains never call women “bitches,” nor are they shown overtly leering at the women in the film, and took this as evidence that the villains in the movie are not sexist. That they objectify women, but only in the way that they objectify everything, and their objectification is in fact quite egaitarian.

While the assessment that the villains are not shown leering or spitting gendered slurs is correct, I’m going to go ahead and say that the conclusion eabevella drew from this is wrong, wrong, so very wrong.

See, there’s a great lie we’ve been told – that in order for an audience to understand that a character is sexist, women must be humiliated on camera.

The truth is this:

When a male character calls a female character a bitch in a movie, that is not the filmmaker’s way of showing the audience the character is sexist; that is the filmmaker’s way of showing the audience that the character’s sexist point of view is worth hearing.

Read that paragraph over and over until it sinks in.

Mad Max: Fury Road makes it absolutely clear that the villains are sexist, and it does so without ever once implying that their sexist point of view is worth hearing. Instead, we learn that they are sexist second-hand, through context and world-building.

We see that the wives have been dressed in ridiculous, impractical gauze bikinis. We see that the wives are not only young and healthy, but also model-pretty. Through these subtle details, the narrative makes it clear that Immorten Joe, the villain, chose these women not just as useful stock, but as sexual objects in which he took sexual pleasure.

In contrast, when the movie introduces the audience to the wives, the movie makes sure to portray them in as humanized, and non-sexualized a manner as possible. Even when they are literally bathing together, we don’t see any water running down chests while the models arch their backs and run their fingers through their hair and sigh pleasurably. Instead we see a bunch of women perfunctorily rinsing off legs and feet, looking exhausted. When they see Max for the first time, they take on fearful, closed off expressions, and project fearful, closed off body language.

Compare this to, for example, Theon Greyjoy’s castration in HBO’s Game of Thrones. We know he was castrated, even though no one ever says the word “castration” and the camera never shows a penis being lopped off. The filmmakers manage to convey that the mutilation has taken place, but respect the character enough not to make a lurid scene out of it (and yet proceed to make lurid scenes out of every possible denigration and mutilation of every possible female character they can cram into their commercial free timeslot).

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As for Imperator Furiosa, it is hard for us, the audience, to not see Charlize Theron as a beautiful woman. But when we compare her appearance in the movie to that of the wives, it’s clear to see that Imperator Furiosa is, in fact, the opposite of what Immorten Joe and his war mongering culture view as desirable, beautiful, or womanly. They do not sexually objectify her because to them she is sexless.

If we ignore our own biased understanding of Furiosa – as a character that a beautiful actress is portraying – and instead immerse ourselves in the culture of the Miller’s world, it becomes obvious that Furiosa has taken great pains to make herself genderless under the villains’ gaze, and that her efforts have succeeded.

From Entertainment Weekly:

It was Theron herself who unlocked the image of the androgynous warrior—a woman who has escaped the fate of other women by erasing her gender.

“I just said, ‘I have to shave my head,’” Theron recalls. Furiosa is a war-rig operator living in a place where all other females have been enslaved as breeding and milking chattel. But Furiosa is barren and therefore of no value to the despot Immortan Joe and his soldiers. She is considered worthless. ”They almost forget she’s a woman, so there is no threat,” she says. “I understood a woman that’s been hiding in a world where she’s been discarded.” [x]
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The villains in the movie are absolutely misogynist. They are absolutely sexist. They do absolutely view beautiful women as sexual objects that exist purely for the male gaze.

But the movie is not about them.

The movie, instead, portrays sexist men as obstacles for the heroes of the movie to overcome.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even care if this is copy pasta, it still makes me chinhands.

[(Anonymous)]

like most copypasta is usually dumped here to mock, but i found that a legitimately interesting read

[(Anonymous)]

tldr

[(Anonymous)]

if only Immorten Joe wasn't gay and wasn't only having sex with the women to help progate his bloodline

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

didn't "feminists" disown it after one of the creators said "we didn't intend it to be a feminist movie, sorry"?

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

oh yeah, i forgot feminists were a hivemind

Re: MAD MAX: FURY ROAD

[(Anonymous)]

no, because what was actually said was "we didn't go in with the intention of creating a feminist movie, but we're happy it's seen that way"

I've literally not heard one peep of anyone "disowning" the movie. Maybe buy a little less into your own hype.