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lmao theres no security issue unless youre an idiot

ive given plenty of usernames to randos, never had any problems. dumbasses like you want to report to denise and i dont understand why.

i don't have a horse in this race, but the security issue/why it's against tos is because the original owner can always cry to dw to reclaim it

so the security issue's if original owner's an asshole, not an idiot

has this ever happened

whether it's happened or not, it's still against the terms of service. you are breaking the rules of the site if you do it, so don't do it

shut up you nerd

yes, it has. some shithead put up one of their accounts on a journal trading comm, then reported it stolen. the person that got it received a permanent ban, of all their journals.

soooo was this person wanked out of dwrp or what because i never heard of this

yeah cause rpers make up the entire site

wow

rpers and hms_anon people pretty much make up the entirety of dw if im not mistaken

wouldnt be surprised if it was a hms person tho

you are mistaken. there's plenty of accounts that predate the move and plenty of accounts that are still used as personal accounts.

granted, i'm sure rpers are a majority now, but acting like we're all there is to the site is silly.

that's really weird because in the TOS it says:

I. Your Account
If you create an account on the Website, you are responsible for maintaining the security of your account. You are responsible for all activities that occur under the account and any other actions taken in connection with the account. You must take reasonable steps to guard the security of your account. We will not be liable for any acts or omissions resulting from a breach of security, including any damages of any kind incurred as a result of such acts or omissions.

and it says nothing about giving accounts away or the security thereof. citation needed.

"we're not liable for damages" isn't the same as "and you're fucked and can't get your account back." either way, i don't know exactly where it is but denise has talked at length about it being against the TOS and why.

well i would like a link to this if you can find it because it's news to me, tbh. if it's not in the TOS and it's such a serious offense it really should be. i'd never do that to someone, but if it's happened that's a big deal.

cursory googling got me this https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=239

i'm sure it is there somewhere, just maybe in an obscure place, but either way it's codified in the faq if nowhere else.

huh. i actually didn't know this. i wonder how the investigation on that went since wouldn't they take into account receipts of agreeing to trade? like i know trading is supposed to be against the rules but if someone said "this person hacked my account" when they clearly gave it away is that still a bannable offense?

that sounds fucked up if not since i assume it's mostly friends trading/giving away usernames

No they wouldn't because that stuff can be faked quite easily, especially online. Most sites don't allow for giving away/trading/selling accounts because it is difficult for the site to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt what truly happened and it becomes a matter of one person's word against another. DW staff would have to use information that can't be forged to prove ownership, and that's going to be login records and records of information changes on an account.

And if you think it's fucked up that people will do it, sadly it happens a lot. I've seen people get fucked over by friends and family all the time and it's usually because of some petty argument. Most companies don't want to get in the middle of personal disputes, so that's why they take the stance of it's the owner's responsibility. DW's only responsibility as far as security goes is to ensure that information that isn't publicly visible isn't leaked.

It's in the TOS.

IX. No Resale of Services

You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell, or exploit any portion of the Website, use of the Website, or access to the Website.

and

XI. Member Conduct
You agree that you will not use the Website to:
[...]
12. Access any other person's account, or exceed the scope of the Website that you have signed up for; for example, accessing and using features you don't have a right to use.

First part would include giving/trading/selling away an account ("access to the Website"), the second part covers using a given/traded account ("access any other person's account"). The fact that it's a mutual exchange between RPers means they don't generally give enough of a fuck to come down on it unless someone complains, but they always have the option to if there are enough complaints from people who've traded shit to piss them off, or they decide the nibble it takes out of the revenue stream from rename tokens is annoying enough to penalize people for it.

There's also the fact that a DW account is forever and always considered to belong to the person who first created it, via the email address they created it on. Which on the side of the person taking over an account means that if the guy who handed it off to you a year ago decides that hey, they really want to use that username now (or hey, they're pissed because they feel you've snubbed them in a game, or hey, a weasel just crawled up their ass and died, or whatever reason), they can retake it as long as they still have access to the initial account. And on the side of the person handing off the account, it means that if that random sock they gave the account to decides to go be a dicksniff and violate the TOS six ways from Sunday, the best case scenario is that they're both banned, because the original owner is liable for anything done on the account.

it happened on lj back in the day and that's why it's in the tos of dwrp. to my knowledge, no one on dwrp (because there isn't a journal trading comm here) has ever given away an account and then gone crying to the staff about it being stolen. it was preemptive because of lj.

And likely also because they know how stupid and indecisive people can be. Also if any of DW staff has worked customer service, they probably are fully aware that when people have disputes with each other, they often will fuck with that person's accounts. A company like DW has to take a stance of we're not responsible because not doing so means they'll get stuck being involved in people's personal disputes and those can get nasty and even involve the police, courts and lawyers. No one wants to get involved in shit like that if they can avoid it.

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