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"we're not liable for damages" isn't the same as "and you're fucked and can't get your account back." either way, i don't know exactly where it is but denise has talked at length about it being against the TOS and why.

well i would like a link to this if you can find it because it's news to me, tbh. if it's not in the TOS and it's such a serious offense it really should be. i'd never do that to someone, but if it's happened that's a big deal.

cursory googling got me this https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=239

i'm sure it is there somewhere, just maybe in an obscure place, but either way it's codified in the faq if nowhere else.

huh. i actually didn't know this. i wonder how the investigation on that went since wouldn't they take into account receipts of agreeing to trade? like i know trading is supposed to be against the rules but if someone said "this person hacked my account" when they clearly gave it away is that still a bannable offense?

that sounds fucked up if not since i assume it's mostly friends trading/giving away usernames

No they wouldn't because that stuff can be faked quite easily, especially online. Most sites don't allow for giving away/trading/selling accounts because it is difficult for the site to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt what truly happened and it becomes a matter of one person's word against another. DW staff would have to use information that can't be forged to prove ownership, and that's going to be login records and records of information changes on an account.

And if you think it's fucked up that people will do it, sadly it happens a lot. I've seen people get fucked over by friends and family all the time and it's usually because of some petty argument. Most companies don't want to get in the middle of personal disputes, so that's why they take the stance of it's the owner's responsibility. DW's only responsibility as far as security goes is to ensure that information that isn't publicly visible isn't leaked.

It's in the TOS.

IX. No Resale of Services

You agree not to reproduce, duplicate, copy, sell, resell, or exploit any portion of the Website, use of the Website, or access to the Website.

and

XI. Member Conduct
You agree that you will not use the Website to:
[...]
12. Access any other person's account, or exceed the scope of the Website that you have signed up for; for example, accessing and using features you don't have a right to use.

First part would include giving/trading/selling away an account ("access to the Website"), the second part covers using a given/traded account ("access any other person's account"). The fact that it's a mutual exchange between RPers means they don't generally give enough of a fuck to come down on it unless someone complains, but they always have the option to if there are enough complaints from people who've traded shit to piss them off, or they decide the nibble it takes out of the revenue stream from rename tokens is annoying enough to penalize people for it.

There's also the fact that a DW account is forever and always considered to belong to the person who first created it, via the email address they created it on. Which on the side of the person taking over an account means that if the guy who handed it off to you a year ago decides that hey, they really want to use that username now (or hey, they're pissed because they feel you've snubbed them in a game, or hey, a weasel just crawled up their ass and died, or whatever reason), they can retake it as long as they still have access to the initial account. And on the side of the person handing off the account, it means that if that random sock they gave the account to decides to go be a dicksniff and violate the TOS six ways from Sunday, the best case scenario is that they're both banned, because the original owner is liable for anything done on the account.

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