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peridot's not a crystal gem until she starts singing in the theme song.

What if she has to change her outfit before we get a new version of the theme song? Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl did.

my guess is they're waiting to update the theme song until they finish adding new characters

lapis at least, jasper possible, who fuckin knows maybe centipeedle or bismuth or WHOEVER the point is they're gonna hang back one way or another

NGL, I'll be kinda disappointed if Jasper gets redeemed, too.

if jasper gets redeem then SU writers really don't know how to write anything.

friendly reminder that this is a show for literal 6 year olds

friendly reminder so was MLP and discords Heel face turn is better then this

are you seriously that bitter that you're not getting your stupid black and white morality with Peridot not growing like people actually do

It's still not an excuse for bad writing. If it was a full-on nonsense show like Spongebob, then fine, but "Oh, it's for children" isn't an excuse for bad or lazy writing. It's same kind of thinking that keeps a lot of animation from getting respect.

You can't know it would be badly written, though. Jasper hasn't gone around biting off puppy heads or whatever to show she's completely 100% irredeemable. I can think of a few ways the writers could pull it off without "bad writing."

Honestly, what Jasper's done isn't really that bad when compared to Lapis (stole an entire planet's ocean and forcibly maintaining a fusion when Jasper would have gotten her ass kicked to begin with) and Peridot (being at least complacent with the cluster/fusion experiments, trying to kill Steven and co. outright).

Sorry, posting on mobile sucks. Jasper's still a dick, but considering that Peridot was redeemed and Lapis Lazuli's in-show treatment, it's not impossible that Jasper pull a Peridot or something down the line.

oh puh-leaze barbie.

are you re-a-a-ally that dense betty-lou or did you forget that lapis was remoseful over that and desperate to get home. Can you really not tell the difference between a solider gem that fought on the planet and reveals in causing pain and destruction and a pampered noble in Blue Diamond's court that just wants to go home?

give me your ~~man~~ fan cards, you don't deserve them anymore.

She wasn't remorseful at all. She was willing to stretch the ocean as far as she could if it meant going home, Earth be damned.

The only thing on Earth she cares about is Steven.

0/10 not enough believability

Lapis never actually showed any remorse for what she did. Granted, she wassuffering from a broken gem and likely upwards of 3,000 years of bullshit, but that doesn't excuse how, if Steven hadn't shown up, her actions would have ended up actually killing people and fucking over the entire Earth. Furthermore, she legit tried to cause harm to people (Steven, Connie, Greg) who hadn't hurt her at all - and hey, Steven had actually helped her. Granted, I like Lapis, but holy shit, she is not a cinnamon roll. Desperate does not excuse her.

Anyway, given that you failed to come up with a worthwhile argument, I'm going to assume you're either really dense, or a troll.

"just wants to go home" and yet she'd rather forcibly stay fused with jasper (who admitted herself she couldn't win without fusing) than try to find another option to go home, or at least to make a peaceful, non-agonizing life for herself on earth

sorry buddy but torture isn't acceptable just because the perpetrator was also tortured once

7/10 though, got me to reply to this tumblr-grade bullshit

you have your timeline intentional mixed up

True enough. Admittedly, they did Peridot's redemption arc alright, but I still feel it would be kind of a lazy cop-out to have Jasper be redeemed as well.

what if Jasper basically becomes the Vegeta of the show, though

Jasper is already basically a DBZ villain so tbh I have no problem with this

she pretty much is.

seriously, though. not really redeemed, just "oh hey I guess I'm here now. p.s. I still hate you all."

the thing about jasper is that redemption arcs only happen because steven pushes it, because he shows those gems empathy when no one else will, and jasper... sort of got off the wrong foot with him immediately because she showed up, broke his face, basically MURDERED GARNET in front of him as far as he knew, etc.

whereas steven was the first person to try to talk to peridot and was the only person lapis trusted, even with everything that they did. honestly, i feel like if steven even considered jasper redeemable, he would have said something about it before now, especially since he knows lapis is holding her hostage. kid has a good sense about these things, because he really must have known something about peridot the other gems didn't if he continued to try and befriend her throughout everything she did even BEFORE she was caught.

Agreed. The thing about Peridot's arc is that Steven is already pretty eager to trust others. Peridot wanted to save Earth because she was stuck there and didn't want to die; the fact that she wanted to save the Earth at all for any reason made Steven want to trust her and give her a chance. Even before that, After Jail Break, Peridot gradually became kind of goofy and lovable to the audience, even as a villain.

I think the reason that a Jasper redemption arc seems like it would be cheap right now is because she's only really been in two episodes and we don't know anything about her beyond that she gives no fucks about Earth and it can be inferred that she wants to smash Rose Quartz in the face super hard. I think before Catch and Release, the idea of a Peridot redemption arc seemed kind of cheap, too, but they did it okay. I'm pretty iffy myself on the idea of Jasper being "redeemed" but I can fathom it working. I don't think she'll really become a Crystal Gem, but I can see her possibly turning against homeworld.

honestly, i'm not sold on either jasper or lapis becoming crystal gems, redemption arc or not. lapis REALLY doesn't buy into that shit from what we've seen, and the only reason peridot did was by sheer accident, because Yellow Diamond didn't agree with her and she took exception to that.

it depends on what the show wants to tilt towards- if you believe lauren zuke, they've planned this peridot arc long before she'd even appeared, so the crystal gems were always going to end up being a "five man band," and lapis and jasper throw that off-kilter. neither of them add anything to the group dynamic, and ultimately a show with seven main characters can get bulky, especially when the episodes are only 11 minutes long and there's still a lot of side characters who often get episodes dedicated to them.

with Garnet as the leader, Steven as the heart, Pearl as finesse/tactics/sort-of-Lancer for Garnet, Amethyst as the muscle, and Peridot as the brains/expert on Homeworld as it is CURRENTLY, you have a balanced team, and that's pretty close to how shows geared towards kids tend to stick.

however, the show could be building to an all-out war with Homeworld again, so five gems aren't gonna be enough to deal with that, so even if jasper and lapis go off to do their own shit, they'll probably come back to deal with the war effort.

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