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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

not all teenagers look their age. deal with that. and yes, drugs can play a huge factor into consensual sex. have you ever been high on acid or coke or drunk to the point you black out?

[(Anonymous)]

minors can't consent either way

deal with that

[(Anonymous)]

legally, no. but again, this comes back to rape vs stat rape. and it wasn't like he went looking for minors to fuck. she just happened to be a girl hanging around who wanted to fuck him. it was consensual in that aspect.

tbh, he didn't agree to be labeled as a pedophile or a rapist. she took that choice away from him by not telling him her age. both parties are at fault here, but the finger gets dragged to him the most because 'he was the adult'. yeah, well, he probably thought she was too.

[(Anonymous)]

Holy fucking shit you are literally defending pedophilia because a guy you like committed it

Is this really the hill you're going to die on

da

[(Anonymous)]

you are willfully ignoring other facts of the case to call the dude a pedo.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

she was 13

he was 30

WHAT OTHER FACTS ARE NECESSARY?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

the fact that she didn't look 13 (see above picture), had a fake id and was willing to lie about her age if asked (and bowie never felt a need to), the fact that both were high to the point the statrape charge would never go to trial either then or today, the fact that lori mattix has zero regrets and no charges were ever filed and bowie expressed embarrassment over everything he did while he was dangerously addicted to cocaine.

yes other facts fucking matter. this incredibly reductive method of reasoning may work for you in your simple and comfortable internet life, but the real world, and real law, does not work that fucking way.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

yes they were high

yes she was lying

yes it was consensual

yes bowie apparently regretted it

this literally does not change that it was a SHITTY THING TO DO. both of them fucked up. but as the older party, most of the responsibility falls on bowie.

these are the facts that you're trying to avoid and when you try to dismiss pedophilia

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I never said it wasn't a shitty thing to do, but reducing those facts away paints an incredibly different picture of what allegedly happened according to Matttix's own account.

You're leaving out huge parts of the story and spreading misinformation as a result. And no, legally, the sex wasn't consensual because they were both intoxicated.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

non-consensual, then.

no matter how you sliced it, pedophilia happened. there's literally no other word for this. it can be as nuanced and differently-painted pictures of pedophilia as you'd like, it's still fucking pedophilia.

that's literally all i'm saying.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

ebophilia. but she went into it knowing how old she was and how old he was and he went into it thinking he was having sex with someone of age. morally, she was in the wrong here. legally, he was. technically, they both were victims and perpetrators and they were both non-consenting since they were both high as fuck.

funny how things aren't just clear cut.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

... the fact that minors aren't always precious innocent cinnamon rolls too pure for this world?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

you're one of those people that only reads headlines, aren't you?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

he was 26. you're still an idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

Holy fucking shit you are literally throwing a massive tittybaby tantrum because an anon used facts instead of feefees

pretty sure you care more about your bruised ego than the "minor" you're "defending"

+1

[(Anonymous)]

neither of them were in any position to give legal consent. it happened anyways. loti mattix doesn't seem upset by it, and bowie has said multiple times how embarrassed he was of his behavior in his cocaine addiction years

we're making big judgement calls for total strangers

[(Anonymous)]

as someone who's busted a metric fuckton of kiddies trying to buy cigarettes from me, lol @ "maybe she looked older"

you will still look like a kid no matter how delicately you apply your makeup

[(Anonymous)]

you don't get out much, do you? it's not about makeup. there are teenagers that just don't have that child-look to them. i was in class with a 14 year old guy that was 6'7 and had a fully grown in beard. he looked 25, easy. not saying that lori had a beard or plastic titties, but holy shit, you guys act like every 13 year old girl has chubby baby cheeks and no tits while wearing dolly dresses.

it was the 60s. go look up what girls of all ages were wearing back then. add drugs and the possibility that she didn't look like a kid. you have reasonable doubt.

[(Anonymous)]

there are specifically pictures of lori mattix from this time

she looks like, to me, to be in her early 20s. she knew this. she's said she knew this and took advantage of it.

[(Anonymous)]

> "you don't get out much, do you"
> literally work at a convenience store crawling with cig-thirsty high schoolers

[(Anonymous)]

uh huh. and you expect me to think that being a store clerk gives you an excessive range of knowledge in teenagers outside of the desperate ones trying to buy cigarettes? please.

[(Anonymous)]

People thought I was 20 when I was 12. Like, literally, I kept getting people being surprised when I said I was 12 and insisting I had to be lying.

[(Anonymous)]

i have this weird babyface thing that makes me look younger than i am in my 30s (i get people thinking i'm 19-20is all the time), but when i was 13+, i grew my tits in and apparently that made me look 19-20 too. i had a lot of inappropriate attention from adult men, some who looked horrified to find out they'd been hitting on a teenager, others that seemed not to care and would try to offer to get me drunk. there are all types and it is not always easy to tell how old someone is without id.

[(Anonymous)]

this. people routinely assumed my sister was a college student when she was in junior high. meanwhile, i'm in my 30s and people always look shocked when they see the birthdate on my id because they'd thought i was a high school or college student.

[(Anonymous)]

as a cashier who has done the same, being trained to ask for id until someone stops looking 40 is not being able to magically tell ages apart.