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AUGUST EVENTS

[(Anonymous)]

Thoughts?

Re: AUGUST EVENTS

[(Anonymous)]

eh. a little disappointed, seeing as we JUST had a 'kill the hostile creatures to get your boon' event in june, and there was another in april. there are only so many ways i can play 'character slays thing' without getting same-y.

i hope they're not planning on having every second month be a monster-slaying event (especially if that's the only event as it is this month), because that's going to get really stale even if each monster has a different twist.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

They also said they're going to be sprinkling more and more event/subplot opportunities around like the Reynard and Redgate plots, so even if they are, I doubt that's all there's going to be if you have the time to be creative/proactive.

dda

[(Anonymous)]

i've been on hiatus this month but i can't find anything about the reynard and redgate plots other than IC posts, was there ever an OOC infodump given? i'm a little lost right now

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

Welcome to ED, where you get personal game plots handed to you if you're friends with the mods, and that nobody else will hear about unless they have those players on plurk.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

pretty sure that was a player plot that expanded, anon. stop sucking your sour grapes and go make your own plots if you're that butthurt. the mods have made some npcs available for those trying.

welcome to ED, where whiny babes of the tit expect plot to be spoonfed to them.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

there's a difference between expecting a plot to be spoonfed and wanting some sort of OOC rundown about a plot that is open for player involvement. expecting everyone who isn't on a specific person's plurk to dig through IC posts and threads on unrelated plotting posts to find anything out just isn't reasonable. if you have a big player plot you're excited about, why not post about it and give everyone a chance to plot?

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

most of the open player plots are posted in the ooc comm. if they're open. if they're not, they shouldn't really be posted anywhere since it's a closed plot and you can read about it through the comms as it happens like anyone else not involved in it. you don't get to 'be in on a plot' just because you want to.

+1

[(Anonymous)]

the reynard the fox plot had a limit of how many people could be brought along iirc, closed from the start. this redgate plot looks to be the same. i wouldn't expect an ooc post from either of them and in any case it'd probably get lost in the flood of intros.

da

[(Anonymous)]

then they don't really count as plot variety, if not everyone is informed about them or even has a chance to try to sign up for them? so they're not relevant right now.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

not as game plots, no. there's generally a singular game plot that happens that encompasses everyone for the month and allows for boons. after that, the rest is in the players' hands. if they don't make an effort to reach out and try to start things, nothing's going to get done.

already said in this thread; be the change you want to see. go post in the ooc comm and ask about plot ideas. say you'd like (x) to do something this month that's not just boon event related. i'm almost willing to bet you a month's paid that you'll get at least one person to get back to you about a player plot.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

They're taking feedback and suggestions on smaller-scale plots and events like that on the new plotting post. If it actually bugs you, take it up there.

I didn't have a character in any of those plots, but I still pieces things together out of curiosity by digging through plotting comments here and there, so eh.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know any of the mods, but I've been getting into these kind of plots without issue. The game, as I see it, is just a place where the gamewide events are just background stuff that go on to keep things stirring, while the forefront is driven by what the characters are doing.

The best way to get sent on a quest or something is to use your boons in ways not purely materialistic and especially to do the royal audiences, where they'll often send the characters off to do quests and the like. If you can manage it, have your character just ask for things to do and you're likely to have something sent your way.

Failing that, if you have CR with people who get sent off on that kind of thing, your character is bound to get invited along.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

But if those are the kinds of things that keep things stirring, they need to be talked about in public more instead of a few friends plotting on plurk and everyone else being caught off guard by it. How are you supposed to get involved in anything unless you're OOCly in contact with the people who are getting plots, if your character isn't really the type to ask for quests themselves?

For some reason, lately it's become a thing that people don't want to plot things with a limited number of participants on the OOC comm, but as it is it feels like you're going to miss out on pretty much everything if you're not active on plurk or don't have the right people added. Even for plots that are totally closed off, it would help to post about them a little bit because, as someone who just doesn't have time to read every single post and thread, I'm starting to feel overwhelmed in terms of knowing what the heck is going on around here.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

I have things going with people that I don't have on plurk because we pm each other to talk about things. Plurk isn't the end all of in game communication. I'm going to say this nicely and I really don't mean it to be snide or bitchy, but if you want to do plots, you need to start actively trying to do them, anon. Put out your own ooc post in the comm and see who wants to go off and do something or ask if there's any NPC interaction that you and a band could go interact with.

If all you're doing is waiting for someone to come up with an idea and put it somewhere you can access it, that's not really good enough. There's loads of things you could do that are both NPC related or player plot related. PM people you're interested in. Make an OOC post in the comm. Use the game for what it's made for and please stop expecting things to just be available. The people that are actively doing things are the ones that are out there playing and plotting and getting invested. Why? Because they're actively trying to do things. If you hear about something? Ask about going along. Maybe put up "Hey, I'd like to do an adventure in the woods/looking for a unicorn/want to go get married to a mermaid" post and see who wants to come along with you.

Be the change, anon.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

honestly? I just don't really have any plot ideas (my character just isn't the adventure-seeking type), nor do I have much close CR (I only apped last round and a lot of the people I built CR with ended up dropping), but I like tagging other people's plots and wish there were more opportunities to get involved there, or that the mod plots were more varied/more important.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

I can understand that, anon. Maybe you could put up an ooc post asking for ideas or help or just saying that you'd like your character to do something, but you're having trouble coming up with something. There are some decent players in the game and I'm sure some would be willing to help you out if you asked.

dda also

[(Anonymous)]

anon, I can't speak for the whole game but I'd also suggest posting to the monthly event posts even if you aren't doing anything with the event itself. if I were looking for plot co-pilots I would definitely cruise through comments on those entries to see if there are any new cr or cr expansion opportunities. haven't really hit up this one yet but i plan on it. I like plurk for speedy plotting but I agree with the above anon that it isn't and shouldn't be the end all be all.

tl;dr honestly if you're putting yourself out there and expressing interest I'm sure someone will grab you for plotting. if that's not happening fast enough for you (and I don't mean that to be bitchy) then see other anon's advice and just try not to get too discouraged if you don't get immediate bites. it is good advice and persistence pays!

if you want to toss out a sock account I'd also be happy to try plotting with you too.

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

I do agree there could stand to be a little more transparency. To those within a plot, things are clear enough, but it could be easier to miss them. I do like in a way how the Redgate and Reynard plots were setup and executed (in the case of the latter). It was very spontaneous feeling and it was exciting to realize all this stuff was happening while feeling rather unplanned. Quite a different scenario that what I'm used to in other games, where everything is meticulously planned and nothing happens without us knowing in advance.

At the same time, we could benefit from having some plots perhaps a little less spontaneous, where a more open call to participation (whether ICly or OOCly) to draw in people who might not necessarily get drawn into the more spontaneous seeming plots.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

FWIW, the Reynard plot was not really 'a few friends plotting on plurk'. One of the muns of the characters who went along does not even have plurk. The mun of Lancelot (who was the one given the plot) contacted a few people he had CR with and would reasonably take, and then asked them to say who they'd suggest ICly, then contacted them asking if they'd be interested, and that is how the party formed. Since it was a plot styled as 'going to get trained', initially, this made sense at the time.

Re: AUGUST EVENTS

[(Anonymous)]

i get the feeling that repetition is so that the incoming players have an event that's easier to get involved in. anyone can go kill monsters or need saving from monsters, but stuff like the memory broadcast event don't work as well if you don't have some CR established already, and the bigger battle events can be intimidating for new players to jump right into.

not to say that there's no other possible kind of events that would work well for new players while still adding some variety, i just see why it's been happening so far and i can't blame the mods for sticking to what works and saving their creativity for the in-between months. using up every good idea that comes to mind right away is a pretty good way to burn out mods and quickly run out of ideas for a game that's clearly meant to be long term.

thank you for the crit!

[fairyfoes]

While not necessarily monster-slaying, the vast majority of the events will relate to combat of some kind! Because of player initiative, this event will also wind up being, by the end, rather different than what reads on the tin! Keeping events relatively simple allows players to get really creative about how to interact with them.

This event in particular was also a direct result of how many individuals kept their stars; had the total been ten or less, the event would have been entirely different!

All that said, we really encourage and welcome folks who have meaningful thoughts or suggestions like this to actually bring it to us in the questions/suggestions/crit areas, or even just to PM us directly!

Re: thank you for the crit!

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, thank you for responding here!

My major concern with a majority of the events being combat related is that, I've found in games that have been similar, it's easy to get either constantly left out (if you have a non-combatant character and don't want to play them getting injured/rescued all the time) or burnt out (if you do have a combat-oriented character but don't want to play the same type of thing over and over).

I myself do play a character who is skilled in combat, but unfortunately am at a loss for ideas this month because they weren't invited to Redgate but anything I come up with for the actual event is too similar to something I already did very recently (especially with the big battle that just went on). I'm glad player initiative like what you linked is allowed as well, but it won't make much of a difference for people whose characters don't have abilities that are relevant to the current event. Two players asked about fire abilities, for example, and were told that they'd have no effect, so lots of players don't have the opportunity to participate in a unique way. Not everyone needs something special to do every event, but things do start feeling samey after a while if you never really get to!

I get keeping events simple, and for the record, I think you guys do a great job with NPCs and player plots and you're really, really involved as mods to an impressive extent. Basically, I agree with everything Korra's player said in the plot post. However, a bit more variation would be nice in mod events as (as has been mentioned) many player plots are closed or have very limited slots and not everyone has ideas for big player plots of their own.

I'm glad so many different player plots are allowed, but mod events can be great springboards for the new CR that is often required to participate in player plots. If combat has to be a focus a majority of the time for plot reasons, other twists (like being able to calm things down instead of killing them last event, which was great!) or things to encourage new CR (characters being sorted into random smaller groups within their court, etc) would be awesome, too. As it is now, it's pretty easy for people who haven't built up a lot of strong CR to make plots with to feel like they don't really have anything to do that they haven't already done, and can get stuck in a loop of "not invited to player plots because they don't have much CR" > "have trouble making new CR because they're not involved in player plots". Mod events are usually the only things open to absolutely everybody, so more variety would help people who feel stuck on the sidelines get more involved until they're "in" enough to go do things with other character or have enough reason to seek something out on their own!

Re: thank you for the crit!

[fairyfoes]

Oh gosh, thank you for being so thorough!

Not a lot of time to give a very comprehensive reply, but please rest assured that we're going to take this to heart and try to format a few things slightly differently to allow for expanded participation. :)

DA

[(Anonymous)]

You make some good points, however, I'd like to suggest a few things:

1. Attend the monarch meetings. It's a good way to get plots even if your character doesn't have much in the way of CR yet. Sometimes characters get missions just for asking a question, so even if your character wouldn't outright ask for something you can still try.
2. Ask for boons that you could make plots out of. A lot of people spend their first few on pets, things from home, and power-ups, which are fine but not great for plotting. Ask for something your character can DO.

While I think mod events could stand to have a bit more variety, plotting with your CR or being invited to someone else's plot isn't the only other way to get something to do.