rpanonmod ([personal profile] rpanonmod) wrote in [community profile] rpanons2012-02-29 04:42 pm

Thankee sai

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da

(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
for years now, as a lesbian, it's been my experience that f/f ships are unwanted by large, even when people don't talk about it on anoncomm, there will be ways people will bring it up in chats, in rpsecrets, in tags, plurk, etc

anytime i tried to start one up i got told i was being creepy and fetishizing the characters and to an extension the players. these games had predominantly m/m shipping bases with a healthy side of m/f looking back. they openly engaged in smut in public as part of the games but i was the creepy one forcing it by developing a relationship first. it's only been a short while now have i found any games that like canon lesbians/bisexual women (or just shipping two girls at all) or lesbian players.

as the other anon said, qoh exists for these reasons. it's slow but steady and supportive. it also exists for another problem i've seen in rp at large for years now that is a subset of the f/f problem, which is female characters are not played as often. because "only care about yaoi" makes up a significant portion of the playerbase (or at one time did) so there's a dearth of female characters in general. there's also just a lot of misogyny/internal misogyny and lesbophobia floating around, not just in rp culture.

people also assume that anyone playing f/f must be a man jacking off to all this. in my experience, any guy playing f/f have been relatively respectful. the ones that i fear are the creepers who insist my canon lesbians REALLY NEED TO SLEEP WITH THEIR GUY RIGHT NOW to assure themselves that MAYBE THEY'RE NOT SECRETLY BI OR STRAIGHT. or they play canon lesbians getting into relationships/fucking only men. there's a lot of this out there. men who play honest f/f relationships and want to play them tend to be on the level.

honestly? games that have a large LGBT playerbase i find are more open to accepting any ship in game than ones with a larger straight playerbase. it's been perfectly straight men and women i've had most issues with this with, but i'm unsure how you could go about figuring this out before joining a game.

i don't think m/m or m/f are problems, just reflections of the playerbase and their wants. not enough want f/f or are enough people wanting to break down why it's oddly ostracized.

i hope the op of this comes back; please go ahead and play more f/f. fuck the haters and their insane double standards.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
for years now, as a lesbian, it's been my experience that f/f ships are unwanted by large, even when people don't talk about it on anoncomm, there will be ways people will bring it up in chats, in rpsecrets, in tags, plurk, etc

Or people whine about in chat about "too many lesbians" every time you get in (Spoiler: 5 lesbians among 160 characters is too many). Or keep plurking about how it's making them super duper uncomfortable to having to see a lesbian character. Or complaining that being against homophobia is "catholic bashing".

Your experience is very similar to mine in many ways.

any guy playing f/f have been relatively respectful.

I can think of one player who really is bad at F/F and is also male. "That Patchouli". I can think of plenty more guys that do as you described. It's sad that it's common.

Reminds me of a certain Rob M (if you read this and whine: Fuck you with a rusty screwdriver :D). Who at one point, out of the blue, told me not only my characters should try guys - I should. Otherwise it'd be mean to men and depriving them.

:/ Of course, I was the bitch for cutting things with him after that.

Re: da

(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like you've had a run in with Mike to me.

ayrt

(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
him amongst others yeah, i would cite him as a huge reason why this fucking fight still exists nowadays

Re: ayrt

(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Frankly, everyone in the world should be willing to recognize that he's a scum bucket whose opinions should be responded to with 'go away.'

This is from a male roleplayer who has played and talked with him.