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I was actually thinking of apping here at one point, but a new application rule just caught my attention:

"Some edits have been made to the Application Page to reflect the fact that we are going to be more strict on word limits. Note that there has also been a word limit added to the previous game section. We realize it can be hard to say everything you want to say about your character and their world in under 1k words, but having to read apps that half again or twice as long as others really slows things down. So from now on, apps that go over word limits will be sent a revision request without being read." - http://thusia-ooc.dreamwidth.org/29055.html

Apparently, their application has a limit in the personality section to a 1k word limit. OCs get 1500 words. Sorry, but how does that even make sense? I can understand a word limit, I can, but 1K isn't even that long. I write 3 times that much for my muses (even more sometimes), and this is just being lazy and inconsiderate of how much love people put into this process. So it "slows things down" a little. That's what comes with modding a game. It takes a while, but it's worth the effort. You're literally putting no effort into what you're doing if it ~takes too long~. Mods, you should seriously reconsider your application 'adjustment'. You can't narrow down one character (especially based on how complicated a character they are) to 1K if you want to do a good job.

tl;dr : 1K word limit on applications are ridiculous, why are you being so lazy? do you want to have bad applications submitted?

It's not like they had much of an apping process before. They have let in apps that show a lack of understanding of spelling, grammar, and punctuation in addition to lack of understanding about the characters.....

Lei is also really passive aggressive and makes players uncomfortable. She is cliquish and seems to loathe doing mod things, unless it involves uses her status to help her friends

You can absolutely do a good job on explaining a character, however complicated, in under 1K! The apper may have to work a little harder to be concise, sure, and you may not be able to fit in every last detail about them, but at the same time, the mods honestly don't need to know every last detail for it to be accurate and comprehensive. Given the number of applications that Thusia receives, presumably, I think it's quire reasonable for the mods to enforce their restriction like this, and it's unfair entitlement to call them lazy.

That's fine, but I've seen some of the apps let in, and the grammar in more than just one application is pretty bad. Maybe calling them lazy wasn't the best argument, but you should take into consideration that mods should be attentive to grammar mistakes. A shortening of the application seems unjust besides the basic statement of "takes too much time". If it takes too much time to go over something that matters in the whole process, then stand down from your mod duties and have someone else take your place. It's not fair to players who do have a good grasp of grammar. What's the point of having that kind of basic rule, when you're going to let in people with spelling errors and sentences that don't really make sense in anyway?

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Welp. I'm fucked.

Sorry Thusia you lose my interest. You looked good too.

I concur with the moderator being a bit off as well, I've seen and heard things that were ridiculous.

To be honest this makes me deliriously happy. I hate writing TLDR apps, and coming off of CFUD where apps were to the point and to the point, this makes the game far more attractive.

I also hate TLDR apps and feel that short, to-the-point summaries of character personalities are infinitely more useful and easier to read than 1500+ word manifestos about how my character likes peanut butter sandwiches but only when they're cut diagonally and the crusts are removed.

Can I go on for longer? Sure. Do I imagine that anyone, including myself, cares? No.

I understand your frustration anon, and being one of those people who usually writes a lot in personality sections, I feel you. But I also think that quality > quantity, so it's a matter to do just that and being able to nail down the most important parts of a character within that limit. I also think that considering the amount of applications thusia gets weekly, it's perfectly reasonable for the mods to want to speed things up a bit and this is a solution.

It is perfectly doable to do a good job while using just 1000 words.

holy shit. i LOVE that. if i get back in to modding i'll probably do something like this.

The fuck? This is a pretty good change in my opinion. I literally see nothing wrong with this. I've seen long apps from majorly bad players, and short apps from great players. Like the anon further up said, consider this a challenge as a writer to jam more quality in a smaller quantity.

have you ever written an academic paper jw

professors set page/word maximums all the time and they get paid for reading tl;dr.

wow. what is tone?

didn't mean to come off so jackassy there. just meant that after having to curb my tl;dr in actual essays enough times, this is pretty familiar territory

Less is more, anon. Quality is vastly more important than quantity, and I hope you would be able to sufficiently describe your character in 1k words. Tl;dr is something you should be trying to avoid, as a writer.

IDK, there are some characters who are so complicated in their canon, it's hard to be concise even in 1K words and actually back everything up.

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I've been browsing through the game a little and I just want to ask - is this game cliquey?

there are definite "groups" of characters that tend to stick together like any other game, but they'll reach out if you reach out! i found everyone to be very welcoming oocly and pretty great with threading ic with both ocs and canons!

it's a two-way street so while people will tag you if you sit and wait you'll get a lot more if you toss yours out there too

that is definitely a relief to know, thanks for replying anon!

Between Aather and Thusia, I've concluded that games created out of the CFUD player base is of terribly good quality. I've heard accusations of them being cliquey, but those were from people who weren't very good at reaching out to other players themselves. My experience has been that everyone really tries to play with new people. The overall wank is pretty pathetic compared to other popular games. (Wanking about word count? And whatever long conversation Aather had up in their thread that didn't break down to bitching? Sorry but that was not real wank. This must be backwards week too since this is the most I've seen in rpanons about either game.)

I'm really interested in why this is. Is it because everyone tries to communicate a lot? Or because CFUD is one big clique borg and tries to swallow new players like a blob of RP? Even Tally looks better in my eyes once everyone welcomed Becca into plotting. And when I see wank happening in Plurk, fellow players are trying to sooth and talk things over rather than wank along with them. Just how can I take this feeling from these games and transfer them to my other games?

Wow, aren't you fucking classy. Blame the people who have trouble, why don'cha?

Thank you. This attitude has assured I will never app at Aather or Thusia. I'd rather have the wank than being surrounded by snobs who state their game is OMG SO MUCH BETTER. WE COMMUNICATE, GAIZ. WE TOTES DO. AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE CR, IT'S YOUR FAULT!

Sadly it is a case of a common problem begetting a common cause. If you don't have CR, or not solid good CR, likely that means there is a problem with you and not the other way around. Can it also be a case of cliquishness? Certainly! But when a problem is so prevalent for you, maybe you need to step back and ask yourself why you're not getting CR without accusing other players of being the mean girls in highschool.

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yet another DA

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If you have never actually played in either game I am not sure that deciding that all people involved must be horrible snobs based on anonmemes when your complaint itself essentially boils down to "I am worried that people will judge fresh meat without giving them a chance" anything else than extremely hypocritical.

Please don't take it to other games. I had to leave the Aather thread because it was like talking to a brick wall.

Ehhh good quality I'm iffy on. It's just a shitload of comment spam to me - that doesn't make it necessarily good quality. Everyone has different types of games they are in to.

OOCly yes they are easy enough to work with. However, I do tend to get a 'holier than thou' attitude from both games. Which is better than wank, I guess if you get down to it, and it doesn't really matter much if they're having fun.

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Not stating my last game in case it outs me, but Thusia has been really good to me. It's really welcoming. I won't overstate things like OP, but I've found the atmosphere really pleasant too.

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