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Wow, wow, wtf? Where is all this Cata hate suddenly coming from? I remember two months ago, when people didn't even know who she was.

Read the Luceti thread in the previous post.

I did read it. I just still don't get it.

Allow me to try and explain from what I know:

1) She's doing mod things she shouldn't be doing. She was supposed to be just a technical mod who didn't play NPCs or do events, just did the dirty work. During the time when the game HMD went up and people were bombarding the mods with issues they had, she threw up a weather plot which made no logical sense. (As she said the power would be cut but there are no telephone lines in Luceti for the ice to damage.) On top of that we also had a Blizzard plot about two or three months ago. The minievent didn't seem to be approved by the other mods either as they were noticeably upset on plurk regarding the HMD and needed time to digest it all. The thread was still active when her mod post went up.

2) She has been given crit in the past multiple times and ignored it. Even behaving two-faced towards those who had been giving her crit by spreading libel behind their backs to her friends.

3) GINIA IS FUCKING EVERYWHERE. Since she became a mod her character is giving a heavy impression that she's trying to take over the game or act like "the mayor of Luceti" and it's grinding the gears of a lot of long-term players who've been here over a year. Remember that she only joined in July 11.

I think that's everything?

These are regarding the crit she got and her character:
http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/2837.html?thread=14553877#cmt14553877
http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/2837.html?thread=13294869#cmt13294869

And then as a mod she also left that offensive application acceptance post telling the player that she'd cut them (wtf).

Basically if you start from this comment it explains most of it: http://rpanons.dreamwidth.org/2837.html?thread=14004245#cmt14004245

And have people actually approached her about this? I mean, I'm sure these are all valid concerns, but gossipping about her behind her back isn't going to solve anything. Does she even know people feel this way?

The first point seems more of an assumption than anything. I read somewhere that the freezing rain thing was already marked in the weather calender the moment that went up, which was before the HMD thing went down. They could've cancelled it, yeah, but I considered it something to keep players busy. You have a point about the electricity, though. That's a pretty stupid mistake for a mod to make.

As for point 3... I'm a long-term player too and I don't really care. I mean, we can't keep counting on the veterans like Albert and Raine to get stuff done. That's both unfair to their players who may not be up for that much work, and unfair to new characters/players who would like to take initiative get stuff done. It may seem like Ginia is trying to take over as 'mayor', but I think that's because she's the only one actively tried to bring the village together. I don't see why other characters can't put in the same effort, if they'd like.

Or to put it briefly, the town meeting was necessary. If the veteran players aren't going to organize it, then why not fresh blood, mod or no mod?

Did you read the whole thread? It was stated in there that concerns have been brought up and she acts like she acknowledges them and then ignores them and goes back to playing as she has. The vast majority of the concerns we brought up have been stated to her and there are definitely those who are starting to feel it is pointless to bring her a concern because it will just be ignored.

And as far as the town meeting goes, I won't deny it was necessary. But it is not exactly the best idea for a mod to do so with their character. How would you feel if it had been Sokka doing it? Or Suki? Or Xion? Or Stahn? Even if Cata was actually a good player, I'd not want to see Ginia organizing things because the player is a mod and while there is no outright stated rule that mod characters can't hold positions of importance in the game they mod, it does tend to be frowned upon. Nothing says it has to be Raine or Albert, but why couldn't it have been someone like maybe Horatio or Archie? Or various other characters that would have done a fine job.

she was approached about most of these things. not the freezing rain afaik, but that's still recent.

the freezing rain was marked on the calendar earlier in the month (i checked a few weeks back and saw it but didn't think much of it) but i don't think anyone expected prior to the mod post about it that it would knock the power out. i think that's the part that's causing complaints. freezing rain doesn't have to do that, and with no power lines in luceti where they could be affected by the freezing rain it doesn't even make any sense.

she's not the only one who's tried to do that. we've had town meetings before, iirc. the problem is more that she is literally everywhere. it feels like she tags as many posts as she can just for the sake of tagging. you check a post, any post, and nearly all the time she'll be there in the comments. being active is good, but it's like she overdoes it to a point where her replies start seeming forced and rushed imo.

Actually, more like check a post made by a live action character or one with a live action PB and she's there. She ignores the vast majority of anime, manga, and video game characters, except maybe important ones like Albert and Raine.

FINALLY! I was waiting for someone to point out that she has a serious media bias. She even bad mouths people who play anime characters that tag her, proceeding to them drop the thread or ignore them. She never tags any anime/game posts that go up either, even if it would be relevant to her character.

Yeah, I wasn't getting it when someone said she tags every post because I rarely see her tag a character from an anime or video game.

Makes me wonder what she's going to do with her new character considering that the vast majority of characters in that age group are from anime and video games.

My own prediction: The Hunger Games cast is either going to become a clique and tag very little outside their group or will be gone in less than two months.

I went through the Town Meeting log she put up. During the actual meeting itself she acted ICly as if she knew everything with her tags to the other players: http://lucetilogs.dreamwidth.org/300866.html?thread=63322946#cmt63322946 It even felt in some of her comments that she was bordering on meta with her IC knowledge =/= OOC knowledge as a mod. She really did throw herself around and it definitely, as another anon put it, grinded me. Her character seemed to have an opinion and knowledge regarding everything in Luceti.

But to be a devil's advocate, during her IC modding she did tag anime characters, if not only to prove she was all intelligent and right.

thank you. i knew there was something i forgot to say. she's done the near-metagaming thing more and more often lately, even when she's not talking about things in luceti but characters. this thread comes to mind: http://inadvertently.dreamwidth.org/5042.html?thread=400050#cmt400050

idk if helios' mun okayed it, but it seemed to me like she knew more than she possibly could in that thread. i think there was another thread like that somewhere but i can't remember where it was atm.

for the tagging thing, she does tag anime and game characters (grune and pao-lin for example) like you said so i didn't mention it, but she drops threads with characters from those mediums really often. like i said, it's like she tags just for the sake of tagging and doesn't actually care to really put any sort of efforts into her threads if they don't interest her, and she seems to have some medium bias in that regard as said by the others.

Actually, I don't mind so much having an IC knowledge of things in Luceti because it is ICly possible to go back and read/listen to posts made before your character arrived (except the older Lucetilocked posts). As long as something is stated on the journals and not filtered (or your character can hack the filter), it's able to be known IC. There's definitely a ton of information if your character wants to go looking for it, though just as much useless information as well.

Of course, this does require quite a bit of a time commitment since it is over 4 years of stuff. A character like Ginia who is everywhere, volunteers at more than one place and is often on missions is not as likely to have that sort of time as a character who isn't as sociable and enjoys gathering information in that way.

Actually, I don't mind so much having an IC knowledge of things in Luceti because it is ICly possible to go back and read/listen to posts made before your character arrived (except the older Lucetilocked posts).

No you can't. Only if it was entries YOUR character made before you apped. It only applies to those who've been in Luceti before. You can't read an older entry by someone else unless someone links you to it directly in a conversation.

...yes you can. last i heard, the only entries you can't read that were made before your character showed up are the lucetilocked posts because they use a different network than the normal ones. everything else is fair game. otherwise, how would people find the guide on their own? it'd have to be reposted literally daily otherwise.

and it wouldn't make sense to be unable to access older entries unless someone else links them. they'd either have to be completely inaccessible to people who arrived after the post or accessible to anyone at any time unless they're locked.

fyi, the nitpicker's guide even says the journals display entries made before a character's arrival:

http://luceti.wikia.com/wiki/Journal_System

[...] There are a set amount of pages, physically, but as a character flips through it, the pages shift so that characters can backtrack to entries made before they arrived. [...]

Still, as someone pointed out, as Ginia is so actively involved in the rest of the community it doesn't seem like she would have time to backtrack so far through the journals and know some of the stuff she does.

This is correct. My point was that it's possible and she could justify it. But it's unlikely because of just how much the character does. If she's doing that, I'd start wondering when her character sleeps.

And it isn't like she has special powers or natural abilities that help with that. But Ginia is a normal human from a normal Earth so this doesn't apply.

Wow. That is an invitation for people to meta to their hearts content. Who thought that was a good idea?!

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I personally don't have a problem with her, but I get what you mean about her being everywhere. I've head her tag me or my posts only for the thread to be dropped within a few comments and she seems to tag every post that comes up. I'm not even sure my character knows Ginia's name since our threads haven't gotten that far.

That's what frustrates me. She's dropped several threads with my characters and I don't actually know what they're supposed to know about Ginia, what they're supposed to think of each other etc. It's frustrating when you have a string of half-finished conversations. In the end I just decided to headcanon that my characters conversations with Ginia literally trailed off awkwardly and ended.

I have to admit, I laughed, I'm sorry anon. I just imagined a character staring at their journal and just...slooooooowly closing it.

But seriously, it is really frustrating. I'll be the first to say that, even in a game, no one is obligated to play with any other particular person, but at the same time I don't think one should tag someone if they're not actually interested in playing with them.

fwiw, the cata hate isn't that new. people were p. apprehensive about her when she was appointed as a mod. the other reasons for the sudden outcry were already outlined last post.

basically, someone mentioned one slip-up here and people got the courage to speak up about other things they noticed. it snowballed like the game hmd did.

i don't think all this mudslinging is necessary though. can we not do that? we've all been p. chill about this outside of that, we don't need to stoop that low.

Actually, go back a bit further. When she was made a mod a lot of people were like WTF? But most agreed to give her a shot and see how she'd do.

Over two months later, we've given her a shot, she blew it.

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