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[(Anonymous)]

I disagree on the basis that "making you uncomfortable" isn't the best argument as to why a player shouldn't do something. There's plenty of things that happen in this game other plays do that might make someone "uncomfortable"...but that's sort of the nature of the game.

Is some of Trowa's CR questionable? Yes. There are villains in the game. It happens. Especially if said villains are actually *nice* to him. How's a 6-year-old supposed to know somebody is "bad" if they are nice to him?

But if you're going to be purely objective and not just name-drop, the same can be said for all the kids. I'm fairly certain you could find examples of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM interacting with villains.

[thesoundofsilence]

Just popping in to say that I have a personal HMD for Trowa and am always willing to talk with others on it.

[(Anonymous)]

lol hi ty

da

[(Anonymous)]

How about Grimm uses their fucking out of character judgment? A post about rape or murder is obviously not aimed at a little boy. The player seems to get off on playing damsel in distress/center of attention, but it's really fucking uncool to put people in that sort of position.

It isn't about interacting with villains but how it is done. I'm sure anyone could complain about the villain/kid interaction at some point, but the only players that I have seen actively seek out this kind of thing (posts obviously about sex, rape, murder, skeevy shit, ect) are Grimm and whoever plays that annoying little girl cast mate.

This is about using common sense, not about characters talking to characters of different walks of life.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

if the castmate is who I think it is I'm more annoyed by their refusal to use the localization of their name because it's just not ~*right*~ or whatever.

sorry dude, official translators definitely have one up on you in this case.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

i thought that shit died in rp like five years ago.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

nope, apparently Midii is a much better name than Middie though

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

it's more ~exotic~

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I love girls that sound like they'll play a badly compressed song if I click on them

[unetrustworthy]

Dear anon:

Please stop putting words in my mouth. I've never once said that my choice of spelling is "better" or "exotic" or that Middie is "wrong". I don't even understand why you're choosing to make this an issue. Midii and Middie are simply alternate spellings of the same character from the same series, and therefore are both right.

In fact, there's only one reason that I spell it the way I do, and that's simply because it's the spelling I'm used to; I first read Episode Zero long before it was officially translated. This is where I picked up on the M-i-d-i-i spelling. The entire fandom used it until the English version came out with the Middie spelling. I'm not the first person to spell it this way, and I won't be the last.

Heck, I've seen people use a wide variety of alternative spellings for her name. In tags to me. And I've never said a word. Because it really doesn't matter.

To be honest, I find it a little ironic that your criticism is essentially doing exactly what you're accusing me of.

[(Anonymous)]

But most of the other kids in the game aren't six.

They ("they" meaning Ruka, the Homestuck cast, Luna, Nill) have all interacted with villains at some point in time, yes, but they're all aware of the danger they're putting themselves into and what kind of people they're interacting with. They take precautions, are informed enough to know these people have a history of criminal activity or violence and can't be trusted, or are willing to gamble on not getting brutally murdered over the network.

Trowa (and Midii, but more Trowa), on the other hand, seem almost painfully naive to danger. It puts more weight on other players to make sure he doesn't get brutally slaughtered by their supervillain or serial killer or whatever, since I doubt getting Trowa killed is what Grimm is going for here, and in some cases for the hero players to play nanny and make sure he doesn't end up chillaxing with Black Mask.

Can he have CR with villainous characters? Absolutely. But it can be handled in a way that doesn't inconvenience other players.

[(Anonymous)]

I am inclined to agree with this! Maybe someone should approach the mods about having an age limit of 12 or 13?

[(Anonymous)]

That would cut out Calvin and Damian :(

[(Anonymous)]

Damian is really mature and mentally not his age. There could be a stipulation in the rules for that?

As for Calvin, I hate to say that I'm willing to make him our martyr since Jesse is always fantastic and never intrusive, but I think I would.

Maybe make it for 10 year olds+? And anyone younger will be on a case-by-case basis and the player would have to explain how/why they want to app them and what they want to do with them, how they'll get around, whatever? Because it's really unfair to expect the older player base to have to take care of your kid character and if you don't expect it, you probably don't understand why players would feel compelled to do so.


Mixed feelings. Mostly about playing kids without judgement and aren't appropriate for this game. People could argue that Calvin isn't appropriate, but as I said before, Jesse isn't intrusive and I've never seen him talking to villains or whatever in a way that makes everyone cringe. It's hard to gauge what is okay for the mods to accept or not, but I def think some effort should be made to change this kind of thing. And that players should use their goddamn brains and realize what situations are appropriate for their characters or not.

[(Anonymous)]

*Sorry, random thoughts thrown all over the place here! I was just typing as I was thinking!

[(Anonymous)]

You could also say that Calvin and Damian could be "grandfathered" in, since both have had a long standing presence in the game.

[(Anonymous)]

You can't make a rule to exclude some people, but say that others are exempted for bullshit reasons. That's just plain not fair and obviously excluding people that You Don't Like.

The age limit is now 15? Anyone under 15 has to get the fuck out, no fucking exceptions. Age limit is 10? Same fucking thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, you're probably not but this sounds Super Personal to you.

I've been in games where they implemented rules similar to this but had a grandfather clause. No one cared, as long as it was mentioned in the rules as to why there were exceptions in the game. I've seen it used for character ages to caps limits on canons (for huge casts like Marvel or Homestuck).

It's really not that big of a deal, but not really worth discussing here because I don't think the mods will implement a rule like this. There's been a lot of kid characters in the game and only a very small amount have caused "issues" like this, so there's no need to implement a rule.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, I don't think a cap on one specific age down is a good idea. The problem with Trowa isn't that he's six, it's that he's six and is involved in posts and Cr that aren't necessarily appropriate for someone of his maturity level. I think it would be more beneficial for mods to look at that in a prospective character than just their age. We have child characters who are well past some of the adults in maturity and can handle the darker elements of the game just fine. As it's been pointed out before, Calvin has a college level vocabulary and despite his age has done just fine.

Like I said, it's subjective. It's also something the mods wouldn't implement any time soon or without extensive discussion with the playerbase, so there's no reason to get our feathers ruffled over it.

[(Anonymous)]

Ruka is a bad example, considering she learned to be wary of villains through exposure and being in dangerous situations. She was 11 when Olesia first joined.

[unetrustworthy]

Since this is probably the closest anon is ever going to get to actually approaching me about these issues, I figured I’d just respond here:

Where are you getting the idea that she’s “naive” to danger? She has ongoing CR with maybe two villains at the moment: two conversations with Bellatrix (whom she’s openly admitted to NOT trusting), and a log where Scarecrow tagged her as a visiting doctor. That’s it. Otherwise, her main CR consists of characters like Max, Ginny, Harry Potter, Damian, Nill, Gretel, Monster, etc. I’m fairly certain Zoidberg and Bender don’t count as dangers to her, either. Frankly, unless she somehow manages to piss off and make an enemy out of Damian, the biggest danger to her right now is Trowa. And I think it’s pretty obvious why she still hangs around him. Most other CR fizzled out for one reason or another the longer she’s been in the City.

I didn’t involve her in the Skrull plot, except to briefly have her get hurt (and even then, not seriously). Her previous logs and posts have involved subjects such as Fairy Tales, Zoos, Carnivals, and other child-apropriate themes. Yes, she does occasionally talk about more mature subjects, such as death and trust. It comes with the territory of being a character growing up in war times. She has opinions about these things based on personal experiences. She spent a god majority of her time hanging around soldier camps full of older male soldiers, where even the captain has admitted to occasionally forgetting she was still "just a child". She hears things adults say when they don't think she's listening. She watched a boy her age nonchalantly blow up half his teammates because they betrayed him. She stood in a field of corpses she was responsible for getting killed and basically said “I did what I had to do” with the straightest face. That’s her character, and I really don’t understand why Damian gets a pass in all this and she doesn’t.

THAT BEING SAID, I will make you a deal anon: I will assume that these are legitimate concerns of more than one individual, and take it as constructive criticism. I’ll work on toning down the darker themes (though, for characterization purposes, I won’t omit them completely) and try to stay away from more of the villains and dangers so that people won’t be uncomfortable (despite the fact that the CR I’ve spoken to OOC have no problem with any of it themselves). And if there is anybody who I have personally offended somehow, I will apologize here and now. Is this fair?

[(Anonymous)]

To be honest, I was going to include Midii in that and decided against it, since I've looked back and seen she's hardly spoken with any outright villainous characters and the CR doesn't seem awkward or forced at all. I just forgot to edit her name out, which is why everything after that is "he" instead of "they". Sorry. :(

[iseethestrals]

Sorry to be nitpicky but Luna was 17 when I first apped her, anon, and she's just had her 19th birthday. I wouldn't consider her a kid. Young and still somewhat naive, definitely, but not a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, I thought she was from an earlier canon point. Sorry about that!

[iseethestrals]

No problem, it's an easy mistake to make.