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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 06:40 am (UTC)(link)As for Trowa, I...kind of agree? I mean yeah, sure, get CR with your kid. Whatever. But it's kind of expected of somebody playing a character with that age and maturity level for them to interact with other kids or benign adults, not...supervillains. It puts everybody involved into an awkward position.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 06:50 am (UTC)(link)I understand the character is inquisitive, but he's not of abnormally high intelligence and is cautious of adults, it would seem? It comes off as very attention-seeking and I know at least of one person who was not contacted prior and was thrust into an awkward position with this iteration of Trowa. I know of some people who had problems with the character before the age-down where Grimm would jump in with the character and without contacting them OOC would put them in a position where they basically would have to agree to whatever or seem like a jerk (but in these cases they would have been a jerk for denying them no matter what).
Another thing I dislike is how they are always bringing up plots and characters they played forever ago. I know someone who wanted to play someone Grimm (or Ty?) played in the past, but chose not to app for that reason.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 07:05 am (UTC)(link)The 'sexy' PB choice is probably part of it, but her tags often read like a gentler version of early Nancy Botwin or an original character set in the HP universe with the name of a canon character.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)Also Luna's still in the game. :)
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)Is some of Trowa's CR questionable? Yes. There are villains in the game. It happens. Especially if said villains are actually *nice* to him. How's a 6-year-old supposed to know somebody is "bad" if they are nice to him?
But if you're going to be purely objective and not just name-drop, the same can be said for all the kids. I'm fairly certain you could find examples of EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM interacting with villains.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)It isn't about interacting with villains but how it is done. I'm sure anyone could complain about the villain/kid interaction at some point, but the only players that I have seen actively seek out this kind of thing (posts obviously about sex, rape, murder, skeevy shit, ect) are Grimm and whoever plays that annoying little girl cast mate.
This is about using common sense, not about characters talking to characters of different walks of life.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)sorry dude, official translators definitely have one up on you in this case.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-01 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)They ("they" meaning Ruka, the Homestuck cast, Luna, Nill) have all interacted with villains at some point in time, yes, but they're all aware of the danger they're putting themselves into and what kind of people they're interacting with. They take precautions, are informed enough to know these people have a history of criminal activity or violence and can't be trusted, or are willing to gamble on not getting brutally murdered over the network.
Trowa (and Midii, but more Trowa), on the other hand, seem almost painfully naive to danger. It puts more weight on other players to make sure he doesn't get brutally slaughtered by their supervillain or serial killer or whatever, since I doubt getting Trowa killed is what Grimm is going for here, and in some cases for the hero players to play nanny and make sure he doesn't end up chillaxing with Black Mask.
Can he have CR with villainous characters? Absolutely. But it can be handled in a way that doesn't inconvenience other players.
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(Anonymous) 2012-03-02 01:06 am (UTC)(link)Like I said, it's subjective. It's also something the mods wouldn't implement any time soon or without extensive discussion with the playerbase, so there's no reason to get our feathers ruffled over it.
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Where are you getting the idea that she’s “naive” to danger? She has ongoing CR with maybe two villains at the moment: two conversations with Bellatrix (whom she’s openly admitted to NOT trusting), and a log where Scarecrow tagged her as a visiting doctor. That’s it. Otherwise, her main CR consists of characters like Max, Ginny, Harry Potter, Damian, Nill, Gretel, Monster, etc. I’m fairly certain Zoidberg and Bender don’t count as dangers to her, either. Frankly, unless she somehow manages to piss off and make an enemy out of Damian, the biggest danger to her right now is Trowa. And I think it’s pretty obvious why she still hangs around him. Most other CR fizzled out for one reason or another the longer she’s been in the City.
I didn’t involve her in the Skrull plot, except to briefly have her get hurt (and even then, not seriously). Her previous logs and posts have involved subjects such as Fairy Tales, Zoos, Carnivals, and other child-apropriate themes. Yes, she does occasionally talk about more mature subjects, such as death and trust. It comes with the territory of being a character growing up in war times. She has opinions about these things based on personal experiences. She spent a god majority of her time hanging around soldier camps full of older male soldiers, where even the captain has admitted to occasionally forgetting she was still "just a child". She hears things adults say when they don't think she's listening. She watched a boy her age nonchalantly blow up half his teammates because they betrayed him. She stood in a field of corpses she was responsible for getting killed and basically said “I did what I had to do” with the straightest face. That’s her character, and I really don’t understand why Damian gets a pass in all this and she doesn’t.
THAT BEING SAID, I will make you a deal anon: I will assume that these are legitimate concerns of more than one individual, and take it as constructive criticism. I’ll work on toning down the darker themes (though, for characterization purposes, I won’t omit them completely) and try to stay away from more of the villains and dangers so that people won’t be uncomfortable (despite the fact that the CR I’ve spoken to OOC have no problem with any of it themselves). And if there is anybody who I have personally offended somehow, I will apologize here and now. Is this fair?
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