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[(Anonymous)]

My one friend was convinced that an English teacher had taught her that you never put a comma after the final "and" in a list. Very frustrating because she got all defensive about it and was mad at me for pointing it out when the only reason I discovered this was because I was proofing an application to a uni program for her. Sorry dude, but I'm the one that actively enjoys writing and makes it a point to know these things. She pulled out her Eng 100 grammar book and lo and behold I was right.

[(Anonymous)]

...either way is acceptable.

What you're using is an Oxford comma, and it's actually going out of favor for the most part. Old school teachers and grammar nuts won't let it die, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Just out of curiousity, how does that help make a list clear and organized when there are multiple ands within the list?

[(Anonymous)]

da, but doesn't it depend on how you list things and if there's even the possibility of mixing anything up? referring to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma here (for the ambiguity examples, not the validity of the comma placement)

[(Anonymous)]

It's a perfectly cromulant method, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

...before the final and?

[(Anonymous)]

after the final 'and'?
like 'melons, apples, oranges and, grapes'?
what.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, I meant before.

[(Anonymous)]

"Oranges, apples, and, pineapples" If that's what you're talking about, you don't. If yoi mean "oranges, apples and pineapples" vs "oranges, apples, and pineapples", the Oxford comma is actually no longer in use. Although nobody really cares.

[(Anonymous)]

>no longer in use

That's not actually accurate. It's (generally) no longer in use in newspapers, magazines, and other serial publications. It is still in use in a lot of academic publications, depending on the discipline.

[(Anonymous)]

Alright, I was under the impression that it was technically incorrect these days! But I'll be the first to admit I don't know jack about academic publications.

[(Anonymous)]

The first one just looks wrong though and in my head I read it as the apples and pineapples being one group while the orange is separate for no apparent reason. The oxford comma serves a purpose and adds clarity so I don't know why it's usefulness is being questioned.

[(Anonymous)]

I like the comma there as well and it's not like it's that hard to put it in... so IDK. Without it, things can look like an apposition (like the strippers example below) so I'm honestly lost. It's not like it confused anyone in the first place, so it seems odd to randomly decide it was wrong, but whatever. Nobody's going to say you're wrong if you use it, so I choose to.

[(Anonymous)]

"We invited the strippers, JFK and Stalin."

"We invited the strippers, JFK, and Stalin."

i will always love the oxford comma too, anon!

+1

[(Anonymous)]

This kind of shit is why I always want to use that comma.

[(Anonymous)]

Both using or omitting the oxford comma are technically correct. As long as she's consistent, I don't see what the problem with her not using it is.