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it could be, tbh. i don't know who is bringing what deets to the erku mods, but i've seen a lot of players drop just random links off with capslock screaming about doing something without being very articulate about it and just expecting the mods to suss out what they're trying to point out or what they want done.

if there's actionable things to take to the mods, whoever is doing it needs to make a bulletpoint list and be clear about what they're accusing her of and what the issue is in regards to the game. otherwise it very much does come off as a bunch of people are currently gossiping about this thing and everyone's doing the same thing, so why is one person getting called out over another. even on wg, people are pointing out that tai and some of the rest of the group (not including bea) are all guilty of the same behavior they're complaining about jamie doing. so if the mods agree to boot jamie, then they'd have to boot tai and a few others as well.

i don't have a horse in this race either way, but the only thing i've seen in that whole barrage of info that is questionable behavior is lying to other people about someone else. people don't have to listen to her or take her word for what someone's saying, and they can do cr their own way without checking in with her. if they took her word and found out she lied later without checking in with the player themselves first, then that's kind of their own fault as well. i don't know about any harassment outside of just generally being nasty.

so don't talk to her. don't play with her. or do, if you don't care. but if all that's available to the erku mods right now is 'this person i don't like is doing things that other people are doing but she's the one we all hate now, get rid of her', i can kind of see why they're not doing anything.

Ayrt. As an outsider to this who is imagining it from the perspective of a hypothetical mod, I agree with a lot of your points. I'm not defending Jaime at all. Looking through these caps, they do point to evidence of continued outright lying. She needs to answer for those lies.

However, from the hypothetical mod perspective, the caps also show many people being indulgent with her. And please understand, I am not victim-blaming those people. I get that they did not know. I am glad that they are getting this out. I am glad they are comparing notes. But if I were a mod? I can see how complex something like this would be as actionable, as the caps do not show (for example) clear boundary violations or immediate bullying, but something that's a bit more roundabout. The implied consent of the multiple parties would (I think) make it much trickier to assess as actionable.

Also, let's be real. DWRP mods overall have moved heavily away from prebans, quick bans, or disciplinary action in general, and while a lot of mods may not outright say this, I think there's a real and tangible reason for that, namely how much wank there's been over bans which the public at large saw the details of and considered highly questionable. RP is moving away from mod discipline and more towards making RPers task one another with this. And I don't think that's a bad thing.

That's just a possible take on this. tl;dr guys, I don't think more deetless "X is a mod" speculation is needed here. inb4 someone says I too am a mod, lol.

tai said they dropped the initial caps to the mods in question of a "game they shared" (which is only Erku), and that it wasn't actionable. they said they understood that, but the mods ALSO called it gossip which is ... questionable, given some of the caps.

depending on what caps and links were posted, it is gossip. a lot of the caps show everyone involved shit talking everyone else. like gossipy bitches. and a lot of the wg threads are people just talking about stuff. there's very little actionable behavior that can be taken against jamie, and if they ban jamie based on the caps, they'd also have to ban tai for participating in the same behavior.

this isn't like snow where she was harassing people and threatening their mental health and the suicide stuff, or second stuff with grooming of a minor. this is all behind the scenes things that a group of friends all did together and now that the group is breaking up, one side is hoisting the blame of all of it on the other while ducking their head, toeing the ground, and saying "mea culpa", as if that absolves them. if jamie's behavior is bannable, so is tai's. and the majority of their equally shitty behavior is mean girls gossipy shit that, again, isn't taking place in erku or about erku casts, so the erku mods sort of do have a leg to stand on here in regards to not acting on it.

+1 i personally agree with you. i support the head's up here, but this is something for people who play with this girl to stop when she does it, knowing this. it's for the rpers to resolve amongst themselves. which we should all be doing as adults, anyway. it doesn't absolve her from lying, but now that people know she lies, people need to put their feet down. she will get socially isolated from this. people are already defriending her. she's going to be more of an outcast than she already was.

why are you still insisting it's on the mods in this case? why is everyone in this hobby always so focused on getting mods to do things? this is rpers putting things out there and they can solve this, forever.

i mean tai is not calling for the mods heads, they just noted dismissing it as outright gossip felt weird.

they said they don't expect people to drop erku, or avoid jamie, just be aware she frequently lies and if she said someone said x thing to check with said person.

tbf i am not talking about the plurk op. i think their approach in saying those things was reasonable. i am talking about some of the comments on here with the inevitable mod speculation and intensity about how the mods have done wrong in not banning.

i kind of agree on the gossip comment being dismissive and i think a follow-up of the erku mods with a little more explanation wouldn't be awful, but some of the people saying this has broken their confidence in the game are also reacting a bit extremely i think imho. this plurk has so many shares and likes, i highly doubt this girl is going to be able to get away with much more. let's put it like that.

did you even look at the caps or do you have some reading comprehension issues too

"so if the mods agree to boot jamie, then they'd have to boot tai and a few others as well. "

kick them all and let god decide

true chaotic

i like it tbh. as someone who has been friends with both, ia. take all of the trash out

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