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da but shelters aren't an option for everyone.

some refuse to give you a dog unless you have a fenced-in yard and someone who's always home and ten other requirements. some refuse to even talk to someone who's "too far" to check on. some people are limited in what breeds they can own because of breed bans, size requirements, etc.

not trying to start dog wank but there are a ton of pit bulls near me according to petfinder but every place i've lived has banned them. even if you own your own home, there are still too many people who get stupidly shook about it like you're bringing ted bundy into your lovely home.

how do you know ayrt didn't go to a breeder? or get lucky enough to find someone with spare puppies?

not trying to demonize shelters but they're not for everyone and there ARE some shitty ones out there. i once volunteered at a shitty one and i was only there for a month tops because the humans there were unbearable. i'm still open to shelters in the future but lmao i wouldn't trust that particular dumpster fire not to hold a grudge against me.

Tried to adopt a dog a few years ago and all of them refused because I was a renter, even though my landlord had given me a letter of approval and offered to be a reference. Later, I tried to adopt based on my parents’ address but was refused because the yard wasn’t fenced, even though the breed we wanted was a small companion type for for apartments. Some also wouldn’t look at me because I worked full time. So we ended up going with a breeder.

I love the idea of “adopt don’t shop” but some rescues are so overzealous that’s is like no one is good enough so the process is just miserable. I understand wanting good owners but some only seem to think only perfect owners are allowed to have dogs.

there are some breeds that home owners insurance won't cover, and pit bulls are one of them. this also goes for apartment complexes and a lot of places. it's not just pit bulls, but they are one of the non-coverage breeds. it's unfortunate that it's a breed of dogs that attracts a lot of assholes and irresponsible dickbags to be owners. they want bully dogs or attack dogs or they just mistreat them in general. i watched a dog get taken away a few weeks ago from a guy on the street because he was high on drugs and got in a fight and ordered his dog to attack the guy he was fighting and then some randos on the street. dog was taken and put down. i don't blame the dog, i blame the owner.

and yeah, shelters can be shitholes. not to mention adoption fees which can be pretty high for cats and dogs, and a lot of them still won't adopt out to places that they feel aren't good enough. i can't adopt a cat because of where i live and that bums me out.

yeah, the banned/uncovered breeds differ depending on the area/insurance company but in my experience as a midwest americanon i think they're generally german shepherds, chows, basically anything with "bull" in it, dobermans, rotties, i think i'm forgetting some... one place i lived banned akitas and i think another banned basenjis, it seemed oddly specific. wolfdogs are an obvious one. i don't think i've ever lived anywhere that didn't ban pit bulls. is it obvious that i'm a broke-ass renter?

i've met a few pits irl and they're good boyes, they don't deserve the hate just because other pits have had dumbfuck owners. it feels like 90% of people think they're killing machines, and of that remaining 10%, 90% of the pro-pit bull people i encounter irl are the "PITS ARE POWERFUL AND WILL KILL ANY INTRUDER" white trash type and it hurts my soul.

i have a relative who was moving out-of-state with her half-pit and the airline refused to even handle her dog. she had to ask someone to dogsit her pit until she could find someone willing to drive her poor pooch to her new place. i'm surprised the dogsitter's neighbors didn't flip their shit.

like i said, there are a lot of unhomed pit bulls around me according to petfinder so i feel so bad for them. makes me wish someone would make some successful psa to teach people that pits aren't the monsters so many idiots think they are.

adoption fees are not for profit. they directly contribute to the costs of getting that animal adopt-ready for you, including spay/neuter and all vaccines and veterinary treatment needed. no offense, but if you cannot afford the fee, you cannot afford an animal. it is far less than the actual cost of the veterinary services if you were paying them yourself and, at some point in the animal's life, you will need to pay for similar services.

also, if this argument is that breeder dogs are preferred over shelter fees, um...

the price difference is actually staggering there.

where did ayrt say they prefer breeders over shelters? they said they couldn't adopt a cat and were bummed about it. they could check craigslist for oops kittens if they wanted to. i can't imagine going to a cat breeder unless you wanted a special breed.

that also depends on if the animal hasn't already been spayed/neutered/had its shots. even if they have, the shelters still make you pay the same amount as if they themselves had to fork over for the costs. there's no allowances made for people that were responsible and kept up with their pets needs, then had to give them up for x reason. i've seen a lot of surrendered pets in shelters and they cost the same as cats found on the street. not to mention there are the aforementioned hoops to jump through to be approved for adopting. so yes, i could get the money and have money for pet emergencies/taking care of it, but none of that matters if i cant' get the pet out of the shelter in the first place. and i don't want to have to spend that much money on an animal that i shouldn't have to. i can get 'rehoming fees' from craigslists or free adverts that are less than a hundred. if i'm forking over 200 bucks to adopt a feline on top of whatever else i'd need as a kitty starter kit, it seems unfair that the shelter is going to tell me that yeah, you have the money, but we don't approve of where you live.

not to mention that 80% of the cats i've seen in shelters insist on being adopted with a predetermined 'buddy'. i don't want 2 cats. i want 1.

tbh complaining about the adoption costs seems kind of petty. they probably want to put the other pets on equal ground or get as much funding as they can.

the insanely high standards some of them have are a valid complaint though.

re: buddy cats. are you talking about "these cats had the same owner" or "meowmixie mattel and mewmew imfurst became shelter besties and we refuse to separate two cat queens!"

i'm not allowed to be petty about expenses? pff.

i don't really know. i know that whenever i go to the spca or cat cafe or vorka (the adoption places around here), they list the cats with their ages, gender, fixed or not, any medical issues, and if the pet should be with or not around dogs/kids. and most of them have a little 'buddy cat' and mention which cat they need to be adopted with. some of them seem to be 'sister/brother', and some of them are buddies. i can't say for sure what the background is on if they're related or previously owned, but it seems to me that if they actually want the cats adopted, they'd offer the option of singular, particularly if they also expect you to pay double for two cats as opposed to one. if i only have the room/expenses for one cat, i don't personally like being cornered or convinced into getting two. i don't want two. i'm clear on not wanting two. but they don't give you the option, and it makes me mad because i've seen the same pairs of cats stay in the adoption centers for longer than they should because of the 'need to be adopted with buddy' rule. it's stupid.

how dare they care about the animal's happiness

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i mean, anon, i get what you're saying, but not a single one of those things makes shelters worse than puppy mills.

I don’t think anyone was claiming that? Just that “adopt, don’t shop” is something people rally around with a lot of righteousness like it’s the answer to everything and don’t consider all of the factors.

lmao where the fuck did i even mention puppy mills? or imply that shelters are hellholes?

like the other anon said, i was saying that adopting from a shelter is not the perfect solution for everyone.

and it's not just a "puppy mill vs shelter" issue either, there are more possibilities than that. stray cats, people who have to give away their pets because of death/moving/idk, your cousin's neighbor with an oops litter because they didn't get their pet fixed in time, SO MANY FACTORS.

i've taken in stray cats, you don't see me being a smug fuck about it.

i mean, someone in this thread literally said some shelters are shitholes.

but i agree with you that the original commenter was being pretty presumptive in just assuming the dog came from a breeder.

1. that anon wasn't me.

2. "and yeah, shelters can be shitholes." that anon and i were talking about how shelters can have flaws. keyword: can. like how some of them have a hundred requirements. no fenced in yard? sorry, not a good fit, bye-eeeeeeee.

3. is it a crime to complain about shelters now? i volunteered at one where the people there were unbearable and i dropped that shit like it was hot. the cats and dogs there might be cuties who deserve all the cuddles and pets ever but holy shit, i have no idea how the people there even function when they're so dramatic.

some shelters ARE shitholes though. doesn't mean all shelters are bad. just that some put such a high bar on allowing people to adopt that the animals might have missed the chance of going to a good home.

did you know some shelters buy puppies from mills and claim they're rescued?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/investigations/dog-auction-rescue-groups-donations/

not all shelters are good, anon. some are shady and/or, as others have said, do things that further perpetuate the problems they are trying to fight.

anon who briefly volunteered at a shelter full of drama queens here.

i was treated like complete garbage and waited some time to write a bad review on yelp because i didn't want to spew a bunch of crazy rage. not to hurt the animals, but as a warning to anyone who wants to volunteer that they should watch out for that shit.

i thought about the shelters years later and checked yelp. my review was gone. so i checked the hidden reviews. and someone blatantly reposted a censored version of my review with all the heavy details edited out. i know it wasn't my original review because the reviewer location was completely different (i never used a proxy/vpn then and the location was crazy far away from where i live), it was posted at a time that didn't match up to when i originally posted it, and like i said, the details were gone. i also remember a comment from the business on the original review that pretty much said "sorry all these details are false and this was clearly written by a hater who doesn't care about animals!" this response wasn't on the clearly censored review.

even after all that bullshit, i still support shelters but i'm cautious as fuck now. especially when there's no shortage of pet wank smuglords online.

stray cats, people who have to give away their pets because of death/moving/idk, your cousin's neighbor with an oops litter because they didn't get their pet fixed in time

i wasn't gonna be rude about it until you decided to get super fucking offensive over an innocuous comment and just feel the need to point out that every single example you just gave is a form of adoption, you dweeb. just like you said, "adopt don't shop" isn't about puppy mills vs shelters, it's about puppy mills vs adoption, dumbass.

this ignores how many people screaming "adopt don't shop" target people who got their dog or cat from a breeder, tho, and not all breeders = puppy mill. chances of op's dream puppy coming from a shady pet store are low if they were seeking a very specific breed.

quit being dense.

the other anon was assuming op went to a shop ("adopt, don't shop") instead of adopting. i mentioned there are other options other than shopping.

"adopt don't shop" smuglords are notorious for assuming shelters are the perfect answer to everything and you don't get brownie points unless you get a floofy orphan babby directly from a shelter.

adopt from an oops litter even if you didn't pay anything? backyard breeders, reeeeee. previous owner had to give their dog away? buying a craigslist dog that might've been stolen, reeeee.

da

agree. adopting generally means that it used to belong to someone else and is now up for adoption. breeders or even petshops aren't "preowned" animals. neither's better, but some people are on this huge wave of morality that if you don't adopt from a shelter where an animal might be left forever or euthanized if they don't get a home in time, you're a monster. it's like the vegans of animal owners. meat is murder. adopt don't shop. meanwhile, don't get me started on peta or i might have to blow up the internet with my rage.

sounds like you're projecting a ton of bad experiences on someone else, then.

+1 how you're responding to folks that otherwise agree with you, like you getting butthurt that folks don't think adoption fees are worth complaining about but agreed with your other points, says a lot.

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