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Another icon maker and I disagree with your analogy - depending on the types of icons.

If the canon is obscure and I took the screencaps myself from a source that I paid for (e.g. bluray) + worked hard to color and edit into presentability, then it's not nearly as simple as a flashy show or anime that has easily found, easily colored caps. It also doesn't make sense to say "it costs us nothing to give away" when people can and do commission icons of canon sources. Moreover, not every icon maker spends two minutes per icon, or uses other people's .psds or gradients or whatever.

On the other hand, if is a basic crop + slap a filter on it thing, then I agree with your original sentiment and wouldn't be bothered by someone taking those icons. Then again, I don't put dns on icons in the first place. I share my toys (unless the other kid is a bullying little shit).

I do agree about really aggressively photoshopped ones or manga colors because there's a level of actually doing some art/graphic design there. It starts pushing it into someone deserving to be paid for their work.

But a lot of icons don't have that much work into them. Putting DNS on basic crop + slap a filter is fucking stupid. You're basically trying to claim small pictures of the canon are yours just because you resized and tweaked them slightly.

Even then, for a more complicated set, I don't get too fussy about it either. And while I'm not going to hold other iconmakers at gunpoint, I am going to be a little judgey if they're that curmudgeonly. I don't think they're pure evil just that they're Grinches.

As someone who routinely commissions colored manga icons, I put DNS if the person I commissioned doesn't specify what they prefer, because I feel it's only fair that if someone else uses them, they get the colorist's permission. The colorist was paid for an icon set, but if it gets stolen and used by a ton of people who might not credit them for their hours of coloring work, it can kind of suck for them.

Icon crediting for colorists is advertisement for their work and a potential source of future commissions.

Yep, we're on pretty much the same page.

it doesn't matter if you spent twenty fucking hours on each icon

you're using another people's work - be an anime, a comic, or whatever - they aren't yours. you're using them under fair use.

so if YOU can use another person's work for your entertainment, then other people can use YOUR work for THEIRS too (as long as they credit and don't claim them as theirs)

fair use isn't only fair when it's convenient for you, buddy

You're one of those fucks who doesn't give a shit about other people's hard work and just steals shit huh

i have never taken dns icons but only because i want to avoid this exact wank, not because i think they're right

but that exact sentence you just wrote? it is the kind of shit anne rice says, congrats

i cannot imagine being this angry over an icon set unless i paid for each one.

i'm sure they have lots of excuses about how poor people are entitled to have fun without having to pay for it for why they pirate games and movies too

did you just compare icons to freaking pirating

now that's one slippery slope

omfg 🙄🙄

i hope you're not op because you sound like a fucking jackass

and i think putting dns on icons is dumb ftr

no, i'm not op. like i told the other anon, i never take dns icons because i want to avoid this exact wank

i'm just tired of this argument and the hypocrisy of fancreators

"i have the RIGHT to write/draw/rp steve being pregnant with bucky's pups but don't you DARE to take my icons. how dare you shit on another person's work"

the creators of steve and bucky are also not on this site specifically asking you not to use their characters, tho...

oh really? let's see, the writer of that nutcracker play was here and we told her to fuck off. we allow everyone to play from anne rice's books, too, and she isn't here because she does't know we exist, otherwise boy she would be all over us.

and even if they were ok with it, the point is you are a hypocrite for saying "don't shit on my hard work" when you're also shitting on other people's work

sure but ayrt didn't say any of this shit so idk why you're yelling at them, everything they said was perfectly fucking reasonable

i didn't yell at anybody, i used caps for emphasis. are you that anon that thinks using fuck once means someone is mad?

no einstein your entire comment was a sperg-out especially considering what you replied to

if you said this to the anon calling everyone a bitch i wouldn't have given a fuck

man it shouldn't matter what anyone thinks or how they feel

just be considerate and respectful and don't take icons that say don't take/dns on them. why is this so hard and why do you feel entitled to them? make your own or ask respectfully and if they say no DEAL WITH IT. what you percieve as taking only a few seconds or slapping a single filter on might not have and you don't know what their sources were, they might have painstakingly scanned them and ruined their own books or had to mod shit in a game or paid for dvds. you aren't entitled to that and people shouldn't have to explain in detail what they did/how the icons were obtained or commissioned or if they commissioned the art for you to respect them.

people rp under fair use too, so i guess it's okay to just copy each others' tags

false equivalence. one, the images on the icons don't belong to the icon maker. and two, when taking icons, the taker doesn't say *they* made them (well, most of the time anyway), which is the problem with copying tags and apps

using icons made by others *as long as you credit them* is like linking your history section on the app instead of writing it yourself.

taking something and claiming you made it is indeed wrong and unacceptable in all circumstances

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