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General response to all of you, not just the thread-starter.

I'm not dropping, but I can see where people would. The switch to SoL for at least next month is frustrating, as is the fact that the entire plot of this month wound up being handwaved in the log description (who sets up a negotiation plot without even a token NPC or player interaction post?).

More, though, the description we have received from the mods makes it sound like the SoL switch might be permanent, if not in official description, than in effect. Player plots are encouraged, but adventures and rulebreaking are mostly going to happen in visits to other worlds: so, things the characters can ICly choose whether or not to participate in. Characters might want to go home, but now that's handled entirely by NPCs, and is something controlled only by your OOC drop plans. On the one hand, of course it's important to have a way to keep your character around. On the other, taking away even the pretense that they can do anything about it? Removes motivation for those characters to involve themselves at all.

If this was what people signed on for to start, then I agree there'd be no point in complaining. But most people in the game joined for an adventure/horror/humor jamjar game, not an open-world SoL. There are a lot of characters that, given the opportunity to settle down and earn loads of cash in a safe place, wouldn't bother leaving to explore other worlds at all. And now that they're living on planets where 95% of the population is NPCs, it's very easy for the recluse types to avoid PC contact at all. You can get pissy at players about not being "creative enough" with their own plot attempts, but the fact is that a lot of characters who worked very well in a packed ship relying on other PCs for survival won't have nearly as much worth threading out when scattered across two worlds and given the chance to live out safe and boring lives.

Writing all those people off as crybabies who the game's better off losing... you can do it if you like, but it seems like a pretty shitty attitude. On a personal level, I'd love to play with all of you. I've tagged out, gotten tons of CR, and had a blast in this game for months. But while I plan to stick through the switch and see, my character choices are really badly suited for what the mods have described, and SoL games bore me like nothing else. I don't know how long I'll be able to keep going here. This might make me a worthless whiner to you lot, but it just makes me sad.

It's great that youre explaining yourself but you shouldn't and can't speak for everyone else. You don't know what "most people" in the game are looking for. You're just assuming.

When you say "most people" tbh I think of the overwatch cast since they've been making the biggest stink about it on plurk other than the Anakin player.

Doesn't look like "most people" in the game to me.

I'm speaking for myself, my CR, and the people on my timeline who've been commenting about it. Obviously that's not going to be everyone, but I don't think it's a negligible subset of the people who are bothered by this either.

If you and the others are annoyed at the OW people, or at a specific part of how they're complaining, say so. What I've heard here is that no one objecting to the game changes could possibly have a legitimate reason, and that the game's better off without everyone who might drop.

The "legitimate reasons" are just people bitching about the SOL that won't last too long so while the initial panic I've been hearing about is understandable it seems pointless in the long run because the SOL won't last and it's unnecessary stress.

You must have a panic filled timeline then cause I have only seen good responses to these changes.

You didn't bother reading through all of the mod responses in the plurks, did you? They said quite clearly Thisavrou will begin to react to the addition of the PCs and degrade. They quite clearly hinted that things will not remain all peaches and cream for long, that just as until now, the events balance out the lulls in between. (Like someone else pointed out, how does SOL in space differ very significantly from SOL on planet? That's more or less what Savrou was even when they were still on the ship, when they weren't dealing with the Ingress crap etc.) As for the "no rulebreaking" etc. complaint, I've seen a lot of excited planning on my timeline for a bit more shadier characters to start up business ventures that might potentially create something of an underworld to the setting, which could be really interesting to play around with.

Most importantly: WE DON'T YET KNOW how the game will shape out to be once the shift over happens. We don't know what sort of events will start to take place and what their tone will be. You don't have a lot of faith in the mods if you think that after all the great, diverse things they came up event- and plot-wise for on-ship Savrou translates to "pure SOL all the time forever after, amen". This assumption of yours is what booty bothers me the most in this whole argument.

If you apped purely for the sake of being stuck in a spaceship, then I can sort of understand your issue. But I doubt the aspect of space travel will go anywhere even with the shift. I sincerely doubt we won't get aspects of action/adventure/horror to balance out the more SOL side. You say it's a shitty attitude to write off people complaining about the change as crybabies. Well, writing off the whole game before we've even seen anything of the new setting and the gameplay seems like an equally shitty attitude to me.

not in this game and just passing by, but relevant info to the game that talks about changing it shouldn't only be found in plurks. especially not game plurks, since a lot of people stop reading those due to the large amount of weird chatter by certain folks (they exist in all games) who turn mod plurks into cliquey buttpats and overtalking. post an ooc post about things that are that important to the game as a whole.

I love you drive-by anon experts. The plurks were pastebinned to the OOC comm. As was the heads-up about when and where the OOC chat was going to take place a couple of weeks in advance.

i love self-righteous dicks that like to shit on people instead of just explaining things. i went by one single comment that didn't mention anything about ooc comms. and i added that more than one game does that. chill your blistered nipple rings.

anon, you decided to chime in on a subject you knew nothing about. you might not want to call other people self-righteous.

i chimed in on a subject that had been shared on a public forum with all the information that had been shared. all anyone had to do was point out that the game actually posted things on the ooc comm, which not all games do if it's been discussed on plurk. again, chill.

well, yeah, but if you want to make a judgmental snipe about something, you might want to make sure you know what you're talking about.

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