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if you're experiencing something so severe it needs a diagnosis then it also very likely requires treatment in the form of therapy or medication. which can only be given by a professional. that's why people think self-dxers are idiots.

also please note the fact that harry was told by someone else that he was a wizard. he did not come to that conclusion himself. if anything, it's more analogous to getting a proper diagnosis from a doctor than self diagnosis.

it's stupid copypasta, but you're not understanding it. it's speaking against the tendency of (especially non-mentally ill) people to downplay legitimate medical diagnoses as "labels." this is a thing I see a lot in twee self-help articles or posted on FB by the kind of people who think essential oils have medical worth - like putting a label on yourself is somehow keeping you from freeing yourself of whatever it is that must be "causing" your mental illness. it has nothing to do with self-dx.

the thing is most people who self dx do not have the avenues with which to get a professional diagnosis. seeing a psychiatrist isn't free. getting medication isn't free. but when you start finding information yourself and realizing there are reasons you have felt the way you have or did things they way you did, and people called you names or worse for those actions, it can be rather freeing to realize it isn't you, there might be something bubbling under the surface.

self dx-ing can also be, in other cases, the first step towards pushing oneself to get a professional dx. a lot of people get in denial about that stuff, and you can't just sign up for a psych appointment the next day, and the psych isn't going to know what you have instantly, either. doing research ahead of time during the waiting period (usually months, if my experience is anything to go by) can help move the discussion along when you do get that appointment and make it less of a waiting game while they try and figure you out. it can also help your understanding of what they might be talking about, or if they say something you don't completely agree with.

besides, a one hour doctor's appointment is not adequate enough time to get to know someone you have known your entire life. doctors are not infallible. medical misdiagnoses are horrifically frequent and psychiatric ones happen just as often.

it's not as if a self dx'er is going to go to the pharmacy and grab drugs to self-treat, either. I really don't understand why people find so much harm in this.

sorry this turned into a tl;dr. it's just something i feel pretty strongly about after being misdiagnosed by so-called "professionals" for years and years.

take this dumb shit to tumblr pls

The harm comes in attaching that label to themselves like it is a professional diagnosis. The ones doing the harm are the ones who are very unlikely to seek help and instead use their self diagnosis as an excuse to get away with shitty behavior. That crap makes everyone else with that illness look bad.

damning an entire group of people, usually an underprivileged group (uninsured, low income, disabled, etc), for the actions of a few just doesn't sit right with me.

blatant exaggeration and concern trolling, go you.

how is this anything like concern trolling? christ, rpa has gone down the shitter.

One rotten apple spoils the bunch. It's a sad fact of life that the actions of a few ruin things for many.

yeah, the act of self diagnosis is not a cardinal sin, even though people like to make it out like it is.

just like everything else, the issues begin when people fail to realize that all brains work differently, and they try to pass judgment on one person (or group) based on the actions of a completely different one.

just because some people self-dx for dubious reasons (getting ahead in the oppression/disability olympics, using one dx as a crutch to avoid dealing with another, trying to get in with a person or group of friends, etc.), this doesn't automatically mean that everyone who self-diagnoses is full of shit.

remember kids: sweeping generalizations kill.

thank you. this is basically what i was trying to say, but apparently trying to voice a different opinion is "concern trolling" here.

i think the issue is that you didn't specifically mention that there were people out there who do things like this for dubious reasons

otherwise it seems like you're saying "no one who self-DXes is ever doing anything wrong!" which is... well it ain't concern trolling but it's also not true.

I guess, but it feels like bringing that up at every turn just downplays the other side of the story. like, people know there are assholes. but if all you ever talk about are the assholes, you're not really selling the good people who are unfortunately stuck with them.

I don't know. it's a losing battle, I guess. people don't really want to change their minds.

i disagree. it shows that you're aware of and can acknowledge the fact that some people have flaws. the problem with a lot of arguments on this matter is that a fair number of them are written by people who simply refuse to believe that "xxx group" can do anything wrong, whether that group is self-DXers or anti-self-DXers or whatever.

it shows that you're aware of both sides of the situation. the fact that you can acknowledge the unsavory people doesn't hurt your argument -- it HELPS, because it proves to your audience that you are aware of both sides of the issue. because of that, no one can accuse you of being too stupid/in denial to know what you're talking about.

all you need is one sentence: "i am aware those people exist, and they're in the wrong, but these people also exist and maybe we should consider them a bit more."

that was super disjointed and repetitive but i hope you get the idea.

late, but that's a good point. I'll keep that in mind.

self-dxers are idiots. but op also said "correct diagnosis" not "self diagnosis"

most self-dxers think they have the correct diagnosis, though. they wouldn't make that distinction.

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