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tbh, i'm jelly that you have a mtf or even trans friend. 99% of the trans women that i've met treated me like shit.

they either hate me because:

A. i'm "lucky" to be a woman and they think that i'm being completely ungrateful about my uterus/vagina even though i could say the same shit to them (but i won't because it's fucking rude and a little transphobic),

B. cis lesbians will throw themselves at trans men like me but not them (NEWS FLASH: IT'S TRANSPHOBIC TOWARDS US TRANS MEN EVEN IF THERE ARE SOME TRANS MEN WHO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT),

C. i'm "not really trans" because it's acceptable for women to wear pants, like wearing pants is the most important part of my fucking life,

D. they think that going on T is gonna make me this huge masculine misogynist bro asshole who's gonna bully all women with my bro-ness, or because

E. i don't like stereotypically manly things (fuck cars and sports, anime and art all the way) and am therefore appropriating transgenderness for the special snowflake points.

i've actually made ftm "friends" before but they cling to me because i'm also trans and all that they wanna talk about is transgender shit 24/7. one person told me the same god damn story about dropping his packer into the toilet like twenty fucking times when it would be a relief just to talk about the weather or tv shows. i ended up just ditching all of them because we had nothing in common and i was sick of talking about binders, packers, and vagina woes. the worst ones would be like "fuck your bigoted family, you should be out and proud and tell them to go fuck themselves until they accept you!" like homelessness isn't a huge possibility for me.

and with all of the toxic tucutes, i just don't feel like befriending trans (or "trans") people, period.

it feels weird to say/think this in my mid 20s, i probably come off as older with all of my transgender stress. orz

new flatview anon and i'm sorry. this makes me deeply sad and honestly, i think it has a lot to do with ingrained male privilege for some. even in becoming a man you were still a woman and women don't matter (unless they were men or are men dressed like them). like the more i hang out with lgbtq people the more i realize how deep internalized misogyny is, more than like american pie college frat guys from the early 00s.

aww, it's not your fault, anon. (or is it?! jerk!!!)

i used to be plenty misogynist because i was extremely bitter about not being a "real" man (still am a little bitter, but no longer a douchebag about it), people of all kinds need to just learn to be nicer to women.

we still have a long way to go in our society... orz.

B. cis lesbians will throw themselves at trans men /transphobic

Do lesbians do something specific when hitting on trans guys in your experience that is transphobic? If a lesbian woman is attracted to a trans man (how) should she approach him?

If there's one thing about being trans that you could make common and widely accepted knowledge, what would it be?

> If there's one thing about being trans that you could make common and widely accepted knowledge, what would it be?

that 99% of online mtf trannies are actually autogynephiliac fetishists and also giant wankers to be avoided whenever possible

ftm trans people are much rarer because they are actually what they claim to be

hitting on trans men isn't necessarily transphobic unless a lesbian continues to hit on a trans man after becoming aware that he is indeed a trans man. i don't care if he's pre-op, don't fucking do it. if he's post-op, definitely don't fucking do it.

ciswoman here, I get on with transmen like a house on fire, but unfortunately a metric fuckton of transwomen I've met still hold onto a bizarre kind of aggressively male privilege from growing up with the boy facade and it just makes a lot of them unpleasant to deal with.

Can't have discussions in female safe spaces about reproductive rights because weh weh we should be thankful we can have babies at all. Sally Sue needs an abortion because she was raped? Tch. Throwing away a gift. I shit you not.

ive had to witness the Pink Frenzy or whatever it's called when some transgirls morph into offensive stereotypes of bratty teenage girls. it's uncomfortable as fuck. some have gotten in-your-face aggressive and nasty to me, just like how some men do when you tell them no or turn them down

obviously not all transwomen are awful, and some transmen are douchebags too, but dang.

yeah, trans women have definitely benefited from male privilege, no matter how much they exclaim that saying such is "transphobic." guess what, you grew up being treated like a boy and got special privileges because that's what you passed as, fucking deal with it. from what i've seen, plenty (but not all) of them are misogynistic and feel entitled to women and their bodies because of how they were brought up as men too.

i know that you're not shitting me. :( because i've personally dealt with trans women treating me like shit because not wanting my breasts or vagina is "throwing away a gift" in their eyes. if only it were possible to cut off my breasts and tear out my uterus/vagina and give them to a trans woman and vice versa. or, you know, body switching would be nice too. i wanna be tall, damn it!

and for future reference, it's preferred that you call us trans men/trans women rather than transmen/transwomen. i'm personally not offended by your wording because i have a pretty thick skin, but some people see it as man vs transman and it suggests that trans men aren't "real" men.

congrats on your free education from a minority, tumblr would've accused you of being a problematic shitlord by now! :)b (i'm being facetious, not passive-aggressive, jsyk!)

it's nice to someone else bring up transwomen and male privilege because i never see that brought up and i know if i mention it anywhere i'll be attacked to hell and back. being socialized and raised male influences their worldview and they have benefited from male privilege, even if they don't anymore. it's not a bad thing but it's a thing that needs to be addressed, but no one will because then you're a big evil transphobe and misogynist and blah blah blah.

meanwhile, because i identify as male i immediately have all male privilege ever and am a big mean oppressor, never mind that i'm constantly mistaken for a 12 year old girl.

right??? i identify as male but present as andro (or an ugly girl with man-face) because i'm not out irl, but somehow that gives me male privilege. what a crock of shit.

if i've got male privilege, then where are my god-given male benefits? /s

i feel lucky to have her as a friend, too. she's an amazing person who has dealt with so much shit in her life, including being homeless and disowned, and she's not bitter, cruel, petty or judgmental about other people. she and i worked at the same shitty job for a while. she was one of the few people who made that place tolerable, and we stayed in touch after leaving that toxic shithole.

i've never talked to her about her views on ftm trans issues. i have a hard time imagining her taking that attitude, but i don't doubt that some do. she's pretty open about things, so maybe i'll ask her about it at some point.

you don't need to apologize for venting. you've had shitty experiences. if you can't vent anon, then where?

You sound fat

MORE VENTING AHEAD, I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE

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new anon

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actual op

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another transguy and ranter

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