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[(Anonymous)]

I'm serious

If your reaction to the natural death of a person you don't know is anything more than "oh that's sad" then you need therapy

da

[(Anonymous)]

ia tbh

da

[(Anonymous)]

someone put it best in that the reason people do this (and a lot of people do this, don't kid yourself) isn't necessarily because they felt they knew the person, but rather through their art (music, acting, whatehaveyou) they feel they knew themselves. it's an attachment because of how their art has made us feel and examine ourselves. and it's completely human to do so.

you don't have that reaction right now because lemmy kilmister or david bowie or alan rickman or whoever else has died didn't impact you in a significant way. or maybe no artist has. but other people had that impact, and that's why they mourn.

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[(Anonymous)]

this makes it sound so selfish.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

If you've never been influenced by someone's art or music or movies or other creative expressions then something is legitimately wrong with you

You don't need to write them an eulogy but JFC how do you not comprehend why a lot of people get really sad when an artist they identified with dies

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

stop grabbing for straws. it's fine to be sad, but sitting there and crying or having a meltdown and making longwinded posts all over the internet about you and your life? that's kind of crossing a line, especially when you make their death ~all about you and your ~identity. this is a human being who has a family that is hurting. someone making it all about their feels and their growth and how they feel like they're losing a part of themselves when they didn't even know the person and how they were so impacted 20 years ago by this person is just nasty, attention-grabbing behavior imo.

dda

[(Anonymous)]

what an incredibly and needlessly nihilistic way of looking at things

do you think bowie or rickman's families are truly offended that their fans are mourning them? it comes with being a well-known creative figure, anon. goddamn, if anything, as an actor, Rickman would love to know his death is getting the reaction it is. it means all his work was worth something.

believe it or not, most artists create as a form of communicating to others, not strictly for themselves. having an impact on others, yes even of the shaking and crying variety, is the fucking goal

Re: dda

[(Anonymous)]

i always smile listening to deluded people like you

bowie and rickman's families don't give a shit about the fans b/c they never did. hell, neither did bowie or rickman for that matter. actors act to pay the bills and express themselves, not for anyone else. fans are money with an inconvenient person dspenser

deep down, even you feel the same way. you just can't face it because the reality of it horrifies you

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[(Anonymous)]

Do you need more oil for that slippery slope?

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

being sad about someone dying can be pretty selfish even if you know the person. example: your (general you) mom dies of cancer. she was in pain. death frees her from that pain. it's selfish to wish she were still alive, but that doesn't make it wrong to feel that way.

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[(Anonymous)]

lbr anon we all only care about ourselves

we dress it up with pretty words and delude ourselves but at the end of the day we're all self-serving creatures

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[(Anonymous)]

if you know anything about human psychology, you know this is retarded

Humans are social animals. We inherently need other people. It isn't necessarily noble but humans are creatures that exist to serve their society, not themselves.

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[(Anonymous)]

"we need other people" does not at all translate to "we serve the whole"

i mean, it's right there in your phrasing. we need others. we don't really give a shit what they might need unless they're our offspring.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

oh no you mean not everything is pure altruism like my animes told me

[(Anonymous)]

We don't know them like family or friends, but we do know them. They've had a presence and impact in our lives, however distant, sometimes through media which means more to us than at other times. It's not emotionally stunted to be upset about the loss of someone like that. Probably the opposite.

[(Anonymous)]

does cancer count as a natural death? I've always wondered. I mean I know it's not unnatural like murder, but the very fact it's alien in behavior in our bodies is what kills us, same as any disease.

[(Anonymous)]

I would personally still count it as natural. It's not as though cancer is a parasite or a foreign invader, it's a cell error at the end of the day. A genetic fuck up that gets recopied.

[(Anonymous)]

any kind of disease is "natural causes" so yes

[(Anonymous)]

He inspired a lot of people. That's what people are sad for: losing someone who inspired them.

[(Anonymous)]

But it's not like the work that inspires people up and vanishes because the person who created it is dead. That's why it seems selfish because the only sadness you can have related to how this person inspired you is the fact that no new works can be created by them.

Seriously, people can still be inspired by artists, musician and writers who died long before they were even born. That's the awesome thing about fame through art, music or writing, what the person tried to express through their work can endure long after they are gone.

da

[(Anonymous)]

the loss of the artist still matters, anon

this isn't a matter of selfishness, it's just some people get more emotionally invested than you. deal with it.

[(Anonymous)]

no offense but are you autistic

da

[(Anonymous)]

idk sounds more like some middle school kid who just read some Nietzsche and I thinks he's more advanced than us as a result

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[(Anonymous)]

> "us"

there you go again noodles

pst there's more than one person here who thinks you're living in a fantasy world

[(Anonymous)]

you legitimately sound like a martian