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Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

who else is sick of perfect older wiser lesbian rose?

i think that's the most grating thing in canon right now.

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

...Except she's clearly not perfect? What the hell canon are you watching, or are you the anon who whined about "OMG THEY HATE STRAIGHTS."

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

except she keeps being presented as that.

Only gem to take in a confused sheltered lesbians fusion and pity her. tells them to not care what other thinks, even though Pearl is the only one having a reasonable reaction to something so alien. ect. ect.

she is literally that stupid trope, and her fumbles with greg seem to be only a small road bump considering how much he worships and idolizes her still, and the implication that they fixed those issues pretty easily.

are you that anon that thinks that us gays can't do anything wrong and that tumblr is a sane place?

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

Except she literally and obviously took in Garnet because she was interesting. Like a science experiment. You're fucking stupid if you didn't catch that. She wanted to study Garnet if anything. Kind of like how she treated humans as playthings.

And oh god you are that anon. Please stop and go away. Straights do not face prejudice. Oh, gays can do shit wrong, but heteorphobia is not a thing.

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

wrongo. not that anon but I do agree with that in that you need serious therapy and mental help.

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you're clearly not that anon, you just happen to agree with them and can't even retort to the obvious meat of this.

Done here, go whine about heterophobia elsewhere.

da

[(Anonymous)]

yall need jesus

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

jesus has a dick, therefore he is the devil

god should have sent a daughter instead of a son

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

lbr there is a 75% chance she and pearl had fused before the answer so she prob knew what ruby and sapphire were going through on some level.

like we've seen rose a total of... what, four times? we still know very little about her, and the accounts of what she was like are coming from people who would have very valid reasons to idolize her (though out of all of them greg's seems to be the most down to earth depiction of her).

seem to be only a small road bump considering how much he worships and idolizes her still, and the implication that they fixed those issues pretty easily.

but idg your problem with this, if they weren't able to fix this problem they wouldn't have stayed together and steven wouldn't have been born. the whole point of that episode was to show rose wasn't the flawless goddess people remembered her as, and you think it's bad that she was able to change and commit to a serious relationship?

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think she and Pearl had fused before then. Pearl seemed pretty surprised by seeing Ruby and Sapphire fuse and when they run into Garnet again, Pearl just calls her "The Fusion." If they had fused before that point she probably wouldn't have regarded Garnet as being so alien.

I think with Rose, she's only being depicted the way she is ("older wiser lesbian", as OP put it) because we're mostly seeing her through the eyes of other characters/other characters' stories. The one time we saw a completely objective view of her, in Lion the Movie: Straight to Video, it was after she met Greg and learned more about humanity. I agree that with the limited screentime Rose has had, it's...not really a huge deal. We still have a lot of story to go through and learn more about her.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that with the limited screentime Rose has had, it's...not really a huge deal. We still have a lot of story to go through and learn more about her.

Yeah this is basically my thoughts on it. If she was still alive and showed up a lot and was 100% flawless all the time, I'd agree that she'd be a 'wise old lesbian'.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

i hope we see more greg and rose flashbacks in the future. i agree that greg definitely has the most reasonable view of who she was, because he's willing to acknowledge her flaws as well as her positives. garnet, i think, has similar views as well. pearl and amethyst are the ones who idolize her the most, but pearl is definitely the one who holds the "rose was flawless" image to her heart in every single way and may not be capable of accepting otherwise.

Re: STEVEN UNIVERSE

[(Anonymous)]

I mean this is in no way canon yet, so I could be wrong, but It seems like they are tip toeing around something about Rose being not so nice.

I mean since it's a kid show and she's the main character's mom I'm sure it'll also be resolved/redeemed by this point in canon. Steven will find out about it, grapple with his feelings and then have a long talk woth greg/pearl/connie/lion/whatever. But I mean she did likely come here as the invading alien leader from a civilization that's been shown as not so nice, before they rebelled.

[(Anonymous)]

rose probably isn't going to be revealed to be a bad guy but ia that she did some not so nice things in the past, she's even nearly confirmed that herself.

i just find it hard to believe she didn't know about the cluster.

[(Anonymous)]

I get the impression that Blue Diamond was responsible for the diplomatic attempts to resolve the rebellion before the gem war really started. Seems more like Yellow Diamond was responsible for the later experimentation that led to the cluster. Could be that the timeline was drawn out enough that by that point Rose Quartz and co. were whittled down to hunting and bubbling monster gems as we see at the beginning of the series.

[(Anonymous)]

Gonna go full-on nerd mode here.

The Answer brought up that Gems have courts, but when Lapis sent her warning to Steven in season 1, she said that when she got to home world it was "different." I get the feeling that, just form the way Jasper and Peridot talked about her, Yellow Diamond might hold more power than the other Diamonds at this point. Then again, it could just be that Peridot and Jasper are part of Yellow Diamond's court.

Also, Peridot referred to the Diamonds as the Gem Matriarchs. Gems ID as female confirmed?

[(Anonymous)]

The Answer brought up that Gems have courts, but when Lapis sent her warning to Steven in season 1, she said that when she got to home world it was "different."

yeah that's a really good thing to point out, since Lapis hasn't been on homeworld as long as the crystal gems. the other matriarchs still exist by way of Peridot identifying them, but a shift in power balance would be a huge change. though i wonder if Rose is actually a matriarch now like previously believed - the diamonds seem to be very large in stature and while Rose is tall she doesn't seem as daunting as Blue Diamond looked in Answer.

plus Jasper didn't seem very phased about fusing with Lapis for a power boost, despite them definitely being in different courts, so the very concept that gems only fuse within their own type may be different now (though it clearly requires more effort on the part of the gems to keep it stable.)

da

[(Anonymous)]

rose is a quartz (like jasper), she's in a lower caste than the diamonds but probably still above most other gems

peridot mentions that amethyst (also a quartz) is in a higher caste than garnet and pearl and even peridot herself

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

We assume she's quartz, but her gem looks more like a pink diamond than a rose quartz. Look 'em up. Rose quartz is more a smokey thing, and I think would look more akin to a Pearl's gem coloration-wise. As well, Steven was able to use his gem to activate things explicitly marked with the four diamond symbol.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

the rose quartz/pink diamond theory always rustled my jimmies a touch because isn't there different shades and translucencies of rose quartz? it's not unheard of for rose quartz to have a solid, rose red color.

also, spoilers ahead, in the new episode wasn't peridot using one of those four diamond things as well?

[(Anonymous)]

I saw someone theorize that Rose might be PART of a matriarch. Like, what if the Matriarchs are actually fusions of many of one type of Gem to account for why they're so large.

Agreed about the concept of gems fusing with different gems. Maybe after Garnet fused they decided to experiment with it and, finding that fusions of different were stronger than single gems, started doing the artificial fusions of broken gems to possibly use them as tools of war. Also, if Yellow Diamond did rise to power, maybe that's what lead to the advancement of Gem technology.

On a different but Lapis-related note, I'm wondering if we'll get backstory on what she was doing on Earth in the first place since I've heard she's in the next episode. I think it's safe to say she participated in the Gem Rebellion we just don't know why. It clearly wasn't for the sake of Earth since she says "I never believed in this planet."

[(Anonymous)]

gems shapeshift, though

could she have regenerated into a smaller form at some point? it'd be a smart disguise

[(Anonymous)]

none of the gems have ever changed sized though when regenerating.

except for amethyst and her form was not stable

[(Anonymous)]

But Diamonds wouldn't be able to fit inside most of the Gem Structures we've, including the Sea Spire. So either they can consciously size shift as they please or they never intended to ever show up at most of the structures we have seen.

ayrt

[(Anonymous)]

yeah I'm expecting it to be like a morally gray thing, or a like "I thought it was ok and came to earth and realized it wasn't and started to work towards doing the ~right thing~!!" type of plot.